"Money" Mayweather vs Julio Cesar Chavez at 140lbs

Thoughts?

 

I think Floyd could beat Chavez at 140, but it wouldnt be easy for him at all. I think he pulls out a close decision.

At 135 I'd pick Chavez over him.

At 147 on the other hand, Floyd beats him by pretty wide decision.

 

Floyd beats Chavez at any weight.

People would be inclined to pick Chavez over Floyd at 135lbs simply because Floyd struggled with Castillo who was Chavez' sparring partner. But if boxing worked that way Floyd should have lost to Hatton who destroyed the same said Castillo.

Chavez is not beating Floyd AT ALL!!!!!!!!!

 

I think there's at least 2 or 3 steps between either Ricky Hatton or Castillo and Chavez.

Instead of the kind of winging, quick stuff Hatton brings, Chavez brings a compact measured attack that is much more accurate, and in addition, there's no way Chavez gets hurt or dissuaded by the sharp counters Mayweather would land.

At this point, there are few guys with Chavez' style that I would favor in a match with Floyd, and this fight in particular is an absolute toss up in my mind. If they fought I'd pick Mayweather by close decision anywhere from 135-147, but should Cotto and Floyd fight, I think that would be a better indicator of how a compact and solid boxer, who happens to be a good infighter would fare against Floyd.

 

No reason to go overboard because Floyd dominated a guy whose style was tailormade for him.

But Hatton is no Chavez...and at 140, Floyd would be at a substantial strength disadvantage.

Last night...Floyd was the physically stronger guy.

At 140, he probably would have been as well. But again, Hattton is no Chavez.

No way Floyd would hurt the granite chinned Chavez,...but might cut him or bust him up.

But I think that Chavez coming in would just be a style that favors and compliments Floyds.

Close call..but I see Floyd winning a decision much like the way Whitaker beat Chavez.

 

Chavez by decision.

 

word...

 

mayweather would put it on jc superstar so bad he'd have to change his nickname from 'money' to " I.R.S. "

 

Thoughts....hmmm...

First of all..."Money" is a pretty lame nickname.

Second of all...I'll take Chavez at any weight under 147.

 

hmm.....very difficult question.

At 147lbs:

Leonard, Hearns, Robinson (assuming he was as good at that weight as the legend suggests), possibly Vernon Forrest, Possibly Armstrong

At 140lbs:

No one

At 135lbs:

Possibly Duran, Possibly Whitaker

At 130lbs:

No one.

Of course that's just my opinion. We shall never know.

 

Chavez batters Floyd in 8 rounds ...
Floyd then retires because instead of telling stories that his body is breaking down , the stories would be real this time ...

 

Mythical Matchups is a place where posters that can't analyse styles can rule as kings by just choosing the popular choice and knowing that they could never ever be proven wrong because the fight could never happen. ::


To rule this forum all you need to do is pick the legend over the contemporary or the guy that isn't valued as high historically. Then everyone claps!

But all of that aside, I want to know, stylewise, HOW Chavez is able to consistently trap and punish the fast, fleet footed, elusive, relatively rangy Floyd often enough and with enough power to batter him in 8 rounds?

 

He wouldn't do it in 8 rounds, but he would win a decision.

 

agGREED. I think Mayweather can last the distance, but he loses a decision.

 

Do you consider Chavez PRIME in his first fight with Meldrick Taylor? You see...although different styles, Floyd's overral abilities balance out Meldrick's overall abilities...and then Floyd has a stronger resolve and better elusiveness. I just can't see how Chavez is going to win a decision against Floyd who isn't there to be hit, is deadly accurate, fast, mobile and hits hard enough (with sharp counters) to keep anyone honest.

I just can't see it.

 

You saw the first fight with Castillo. Now picture a guy with a somewhat similar style but is much better in every way.

Think hard enough and you'll be able to see it.

 

And Floyd wouldn't have thrown half the amount of punches Taylor did.
That effects scoring.
What do you mean "Floyd isn't there to be hit" Of fuckin course he is ..
Why , cause tired out arm punching Hatton didn't do it ?
You talk like its impossible to hit Floyd ..
GTFOH with that shit ..

 

Their styles are not similar at all! That's another stupid myth. Different heights, different way of punching, different blocking techniques....should Ali have lost to Foreman because George had a "somewhat similar" style to Norton but "better in every way"......besides....ah.....:: ....forget it.

 

Chavez and Castillo do have similar styles. Stupid myth? :notallthere:

 

Forget it with Sly. To him, the fact that Foreman, Ali and Norton split victories proves that all his favourites would win any given fight "because boxing is about styles":notallthere:

 

Yep.
Ali vs. Norton vs. Forman = Sly's current favorite wins

Oh, yeah...and apparently repeatedly using the word "stylistically" makes your posts that much more correct.

 

They only have body punching in common. If that's the case...Miguel Cotto and Shane Mosley have similar styles too

 

Boxing is about styles as well ass abilities. Castillo being Chavez's sparring partner and Floyd looking uncomfortable with Castillo in the first fight (Forgetting that Floyd had an injury anyway)...doesn't automatically translate into Chavez would beat Floyd.

Shit...Oscar De La hoya had the same type of simplistic thinking when he talked about Hatton's chances against Mayweather, based upon hatton being a stronger, bigger, faster pressure fighting body puncher than Castillo.

 

Chavez by close decision.

 

Mayweather by decision. Probably 7-5.

 

your talent for terrible logic stays after all this time eating hay.

sad, but enlightening

 

Good comeback Aaron! Why don't you help me out and lead by example with your superior logic? :dunno:

 

well as the one of us who isn't a dunce, lets just say that a moved up clearly washed up version of a fighter losing,then applying MMath is equine at best.

"I mean after all, George Foreman destroyed Frazier, who beat Ali, therefore George should've easily destroyed Ali right, its clear, all about the subtleties I pick up and styles"

-Man O' War

 

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