Who is the most amazing fighter in history?

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  1. Rainmaker

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    Who is the most amazing boxer in history?

    Who is it? Is it Roy Jones? Ali? Sugar Ray Robinson? Cinderella man? Someone else?
     
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    Joe Louis.[​IMG]
     
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    Ali was far greater than the China Brown Bomber.
     
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    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Roy Jones Jr
     
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    Louis would have made ground meat of Ali.
     
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    I have to only qualify guys that I've seen during my lifetime because it's difficult to realy gauge how amazing Louis, Robinson, Armstrong, etc were..

    For me, it's Ali.. Unouched combination of speed, stamina, chin, footwork, balance and technique that I've seen. He was just amazing to watch.
     
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    As far as overall talent and skill....hard to choose between Robinson, Ali and Roy Jones.

    As far as overall everything, with accomplishment being a big factor...probably Roberto Duran.
     
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    Fedor.

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    Real smart.:rolleyes:
     
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    Nice picks :bears:
     
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    Not an Ali fan, eh Stinger? :lol:
     
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    Jack Johnson! This guy tamed the white man and whupped all asses put in front of him. He woulda f*cked up Joe Louis too.:clap:
     
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    Yes I am a fan of his.
     
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    So then to say Joe goes through Ali like ground meat is based on what? No human being ever put Ali's back on the canvas for a 10 count.:clap:
     
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    Great call on Duran. So many just remember his fights at WW and above. His domination at LW was unbelievable.
     
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    jorge castro. the guy got into a car wreck, was placed in a coma, then somehow managed to comeback and fight.
     
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    That is my analysis if you don't like it, fine.
    I am basing it on my educated opinions is my response to your question.
    Seeing as Joe has been dead over 25 years and Ali is in very bad shape as we correspond, I guess we will never fully know, shall we?
     
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    Same with Vinny Pazienza
     
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    I think we can all agree it would have been a great fight to watch:popcorn:
     
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    Agreed a classic, but Ali would have had to fight, and there he would have been counted out.
     
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    dsimon writes:

    I understand where you are coming from Karl. Louis was the archetype for the quiet fighting man. He had qualities that stand out in his patience, his toughness, his craft and his punching ability. Louis was truly one of those guys that could wait all night for the right moment as he stalked you and not rush it, not get unsettled.... and bam! And what a lot of people neglect to understand is that he held on to his championship for a real long time always managing to find a moment, an interlude when he could drop the bomb!

    Louis also understood his craft, I mean he set his punches up beautifully and lets face it... no matter how good RJ or SRR was,Louis was the guy at heavy weight. To say that this shouldn't matter when it comes to boxing (after all heavyweight is only a weight class) is kind of like saying that big tits don't really matter on a hot centerfold.:lol:

    I don't know who I would pick for the absolute best because a guy like Ali, for example, or Roy Jones are guys that could do things in a ring that nobody else could do. It wouldn't matter what era these guys fought in because they were so naturally talented they could do things the way the wanted to do them. And rarely you had guys like SRR who had all the gifts... the natural ability of a Roy Jones or Ali and the technical ability of a guy like Louis. But alas SRR had one fault... he really did not like to fight (by his own admission).

    To me the guy that would have to win it is a guy who dealt with the most adversity. In that respect I would say Ali. Ali was one of the greats but he had a way of being larger than life, mythological. He inspired people to love and to hate. So for me Ali is the one.
     
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    I don't have a problem with your Ali analysis, bro: But 40 years ago when Joe was employed by ABC as an analyst, Ali NEVER said he was "The Greatest" in Louis' presence.
    Check out the videos.
    Karl
     
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    dsimon writes:

    Good for Ali as that was an appropriate sign of respect. I don't think Ali was a more gifted fighter than Louis and frankly I have no problem with calling Louis the greatest. Jack Johnson hated Louis by contrast:lol:. Johnson was probably jealous. I guess that is why I hate these type threads.... there are many reasons to call quite a few guys the greatest. :dunno:
     
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    In my lifetime, Roy Jones Jr.
     
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    I am a huge fan of Roy's as well.
    He was the most gifted athlete as a boxer ever, but not the most gifted or amazing boxer ever, no way.
     
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    Fine with me.:cool: Not that I mind your analysis. It's just a lot of fluff with no real detail so can't really take it seriously.:dunno:
     
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    :lol: So that's your analysis on Joe beating Ali? Come on Stinger!
     

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