I benched 250lb twice

And walking works...:dunno:

 

Your legs muscles are equiped for repetitive movement, you don't walk until you can't walk no more do you :nono: If you did, you would need to rest.

 

Surprised you didn't say you breathe don't you

 

as Buddy knows I'm all about "grease the groove"

do something enough (without going to failure) and your body adapts.. I do this with Chinups, pushups, handstands, handstand pushups, hindu squats, and even running..

my running every day, 7 days a week but only a mile.. I'm really sold on this., the distance is not much but I run it fast, it's getting easier and easier.. it is now just part of my daily routine and my body is adapting

for "ME" this type of exercise is more practical and 'real world' than having wacked ass splits and gym routines that are all muscle specific and complicated, calisthenics really make you practically strong, handling your own bodyweight easily is very practical. I've known guys that are strong as hell in the weight room but can do chinups or pushups good.. I hope these guys never fall and need to pull themselves up to save their lives.. in the real world you need to move around in your own body all the time, to me it makes sense to do so effectivly and easily

I used to be a gym rat and a trainer.. and I realized that the only time I really needed or DID 500lb squats was in the gym. It is much more pracitical to be able to handle your own weight a lot and quickly IMO

 

Best case scenerio, you get burned out :dunno: Everyday is preposterous, can you explain to me the better benifit you would get than every other day?

 

:dunno:

 

who me?

to me my mile a day thing is just as much about the "every day" thing as it is the "mile"
doing things everyday is good for you, especially a healthy habbit..
the grease the groove theory is do it all the time, very often..

1 mile a day is better than 1 mle every other day "IMO"

the distance is so short that the body can handle this as a daily task.. for me, it's easier to do something every day than it is every other.. it's just routine, they say after doing somthing every day for like 30 days, it becomes routine and it is just as easy or easier to do it than it is to not.

 

Every other day gets easier and easier, you have a better chance of getting burned out everyday because there will be more times you will feel like skipping opposed to every other, simple math :dunno: I bet you couldn't measurably prove it is better every day vs. three times a week :nono:

 

You do walk until you can't walk anymore when you're first starting out and developing the leg muscles as a child. And yes, you rest afterwards. I believe it is possible to develop the arms in much the same way. One guy in NY did it and he walked down the Empire State Building stairs on his hands.

 

You are most certainly are right, I'm not trying to prove that though.. I just do what works for me, I think that doing it every day is cooler.. sure there are days you wont want to do it and that is what makes doing it better.. I'm the type that if I break my leg, I'm gonna find SOME WAY to do my mile

 

WHAT??? We are going back to the womb to not concede a point :nono: Holy mackerol :laughing:

I bet that guy will have major problems with his arms later and I gaurantee he can't do that for a significant part of his life, arms are not designed to walk on....hence the different mass and center of gravity

 

Alright, but I wouldn't recommend it to other people.

 

Am I the only one here who has heard your mucles tear when you workout and they need time to heal? I don't know why you guys want to act like this is something new or something you can not care about :dunno:

 

It would be more convincing if you knew how to spell mackerel. I don't mind conceding a point if I'm wrong, and you definitely have a point about the different centre of gravity, but the mass is not a point. The mass comes as a side effect of using the legs so much. You doubt it, then check out someone's legs who can't walk. Toothpicks.

 

If it an intense workout, then yes they need to heal. If it is just regular calisthenics, then they are low-impact and they don't strain the muscles enough to tear down and require that period of healing. It's like jogging or walking; after awhile, you get used to it and it doesn't tax the muscles that much.

 

You are pulling out all the stops, spell check and baby legs :laughing: Now go research someone who walks on their hands to see what kind of problems they have You are bringing up someone with small legs or no legs at all, brilliant! You are wrong if you don't think you need time to recuperate when you tear muscles, and you have yet to show me the benifit between working out three days a week on a mucle group, compared to everyday.

 

You are doing it everyday, bad idea. You will not be getting the rest you need when you start out, so again.....admittedly by you, it's a bad idea.

 

Dude, I'm just talking about what works and giving anecdotal evidence. You're the one who wants to argue. Whether you want to believe it or not, it's working for me right now. I do chins 5 days a week ad I've never been stronger. Don't take it from me; LOK posted article links that came from MILO, a strength-training magazine. Those guys know more than you or me on the subject. They set work records in it. :dunno:

If you read what I posted, I said if it is an intense workout, then you need to heal. Doing the chinups day in and day out without pushing as hard as I can is making it less intense. I don't need to argue because it's working for me. I do calisthenics everyday, but when I do HEAVY workouts like squatting 405 for reps and deadlifting 300 for 12, then I definitely need to recuperate. That's why I do squats and deadlifts once a week. Same with bench presses. I can bench 300, but I don't do that everyday. I bench heavy once a week, and usually I don't even go heavy.

 

I struggle to bench like 70lbs. By struggle i mean i probably can't bench it.

 

70lbs? I never knew we had a female poster here ::

 

Like Buddy said, if it is intense, or really if it is heavy weights.. you do need to rest.
I was a certified trainer for years so I do know a thing or two, your muscles have little micro-tears that have to heal but... bodyweight is different... now if you have not done any and you start doing mad pushups.. you'll be in trouble.. but you recover, the body can handle the body's weight IMO... and it's not just "IMO" look at all the armed services.. you think these guys dont know what they are doing? you know what the staple of their workout is?? DAILY running and pushups and other bodyweight stuff.. it's just not such an overload like pushing extra heavy weights in unatural manners...

I agree with you, I would not recommend this type of workout to anyone.. you have to be in shape somewhat first. Just as when I was a trainer at a gym, the NUMBER ONE reason people stop coming quickly is they over do it.. they have been sitting around getting fat and they get in the gym and see what they can bench.:doh: muscles have a hard time with that..

doing pushups daily and gradually increasing them is fine for the body

 

I guess you don't see the irony in calisthenics in a weight lifting thread as I do. You don't want to lift heavyweights, then don't. I've never been a supporter of heavyweights and I think I even asked why people would want to in this thread. It's dumb for everyday people who are looking to get in shape and lose some weight to lift heavyweights, it's not needed....just like doing chinups and pushups everyday vs. three times a week. But now it's down to five days, so nevermind :dunno: You said everyday, and I took it as that. It's not worth the risk getting burned out, in which you will have a better chance by using simple math. It's like drinking a beer a day because it's supposed to be good for you, but it isn't worth the risk of becoming an alcoholic, get my drift?

 

I know a thing or two myself as I have been reading about this stuff for 23 years as I am sure you have too given your age. It's a weak argument, so let's get past the flexing stage of who knows more than the other ::

You know what I am talking about, you go start doing a bunch of pushups daily, you will never have time to heal.......yes, I heard you say after some time you get used to it, fine.....but you are admitting you are not letting yourself heal at first :dunno: I know plenty of people in the services over the years, and they push you to get your mind right and get you obsessed with what you need to get done. they want you to get past the apin and deal with it. Making them puke is fucking dumb. They do not train any faster than someone who does what they are supposed to do if they take a day of rest at least every third day. They are way too sore, too long because they don't rest, silly....especially when you can get similar results with more rest. They don't train like the way you suggest year round either, which is another point I made, only if it's temporary or training for something. Boxers don't train the way they do in three months all year around either, same with bicycling, marathon runners, NFL, you name it.

Edit: I also see you are saying this is recommended for someone in very good shape, that's a bit different. I still don't see why you guys think this is a good idea. I know you can't make a bet and know for sure, but let's try. I say my workout will last longer than you guys will this year :dunno: :cheer: Let's do this :blobbox: How can we at least try to prove it?

 

I'm not pushing what I do on anyone Tyler, as I said before, I LIKE doing it every day..

and to be clear, I shouldn't say EVERYDAY really.. I do one day on the weekend as in yesterday, (saturday) I'll do 100 chins maybe some pushups, then today I'll do nothing but my one mile run, then mon-fri I'll do probably around 50 or so chins a day and 100 pushups a day.
the only thing I'm doing 7 days a week is the mile

i wont recommend excatly what I do for anyone, you gotta find what works for you. I wouldn't bet you on who will fail either, for now this has been working great for me and I can see doing it for the long haul, the mile I WILL do everyday for a year no matter what and I cant see changing my 100 chin days either.. but I wish you sucess as well..

 

I don't even believe this

 

Irony? Calisthenics are a good warmup for your whole body. Since you want to be warmed up before lifting heavy weights, they seem like a good idea, and they also provide strength-building applications...at least the ones that you haven't previously done on a regular basis (and for me that would be chinups). As for whether I want to lift heavy weights or not, I figure that benching 300, squatting around 500, and deadlifting at least 400 is pretty heavy.

I could do the chinups everyday, and I do usually do one set before hitting the weights because it warms up all the muscles in the back and arms. The alcoholism reference is kinda sketchy at bast, and that's not an insult.

In plain English, if it works and it doesn't hurt you, why not give it a whirl? If you find it beneficial, use it. If not, don't. :dunno:

 

Define longer in this context. It could be the amount of time you work out, or the number of workouts this year...or something else. Duration isn't as important as say intensity to me. I love a challenge though, so I'll give anything a whirl. The majority of my workouts last less than an hour because I hit the gym on my lunch hour and I have to travel back and forth from the gym to the office, and the travel time varies depending on the traffic.

We could do the ol' three lift total (bench, squat, and deadlift)or we could see who does more chinups in one sitting. The end of the year will be December 31st, 2008. I'll do my one-rep max in each of the three major lifts that week, and I will also see how many chinups I can do consecutively. That could be one set of chinups or several. :dunno:

 

we can do the 3 lift thing.. like next year or something or in the summer but everyone has to have video of it so no one can BS.

I'll video doing chins or lifting or whatever, I know right now my bench would prolly for one rep be around 365 or so.. and that prolly wont go up as all I do is pushups

 

100 pushups a day and how ever many chinups you do a day is more than just ordinary warmup. I didn't see an alcohol reference :dunno: Oh, and you spelled "best" wrong :clap:

What I've been saying, it does hurt you when you keep training without no rest.....not sure why you can't get this rationale, I really can't wait until your next post of "you get used to it" again.

 

I don't do squats, at least not very far squats. I don't bench, but I do butterflies with dumbells laying down on a bench.....and like I said, I don't try to use heavy weights, especially working out at home. The only way I could show I was in shape on the chest, would be me doing butterflies so many reps. How many chinups do you do? What I am looking for is motivation, it worked last time for me. There should be something we can work out :dunno: It should be easy for either of us to prove we are exercising even if we are doing it different.