Floyd Money Mayweather Vs The Golden Boy Oscar De la Hoya 2

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  1. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    According to another site this is close to being a done deal for May.

    Is there any way this can't be better then the 1st fight. :dunno:
     
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    Link please, or post the article. Forgive me if I don't believe this bs.

    But to answer your question there should be a good chance this fight is better, if your boy Floyd wants to undo all the negative criticism he received for his first performance.
     
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    http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=12047 By Mark Vester
    In a follow-up to my report from yesterday afternoon, it appears there is a lot of truth in the boxing industry rumors I touched on. Oscar De La Hoya is currently in serious talks to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a rematch of their May 07 bout that shattered revenue records with a buyrate of 2.4 million.
    Bob Arum of Top Rank told boxing scribe Robert Morales that he was initially holding off on setting Miguel Cotto's next fight, but De La Hoya fighting Mayweather is now a done deal and Cotto will move forward with another fight.
    Arum feels there was never a real chance of De La Hoya fighting a guy like Cotto at this late stage of the game, and negotiations never took place for the fight with Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions. He says that De La Hoya used a possible fight with Cotto as leverage in his negotiations with Mayweather.
    "That fight is a done deal. I don't think Oscar really wanted to fight Cotto," Arum said. "I think he used a possible fight with Cotto to put leverage on Mayweather in their negotiations. I knew it wasn't going to happen because the truth is, if Oscar fought Cotto, he'd be in for a serious beating. And with Mayweather, he just plays around. It's not a real ... nobody gets hurt."
    Arum does not blame De La Hoya for avoiding a fight with Cotto because his fighter would have given De La Hoya a much tougher fight and he says it's not like De La Hoya is steering his career like an actual contender.
    "I didn't mean to sound critical of Oscar because I really don't blame him," said Arum, De La Hoya's former promoter. After what he's done in his long career, why fight a beast like Cotto? I mean, it's silly. It's not like a guy that is campaigning like a real fighter. Oscar takes a fight here, a fight there. And it's clear that a Mayweather fight is a much easier fight."
    Morales also spoke with Schaefer, who denied the rematch was a done deal, but didn't deny the fight was currently being negotiated for De La Hoya's return. Schaefer said if the Mayweather rematch falls apart, they will look for a Cotto showdown.
    "Nothing is done," Schaefer said. "I don't know why Bob would say that, he's not even involved in the negotiations. The fact is, there are very many elements that still have to be worked on. I am not going to say the fight is done until it is signed. If for some reason the Mayweather fight doesn't work out, then it's going to be Cotto. If Cotto is already fighting somebody else, then it will be somebody else."
     
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    :shit: What a joke
     
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    Pretty ironic that Bob is bitching about Mayweather fighting Oscar. He wants his own fighter to fight De la Hoya for the same reason Floyd wants to fight him. Do you job and promote the shit out of Cotto, make him a superstar and the Mayweather or De la Hoya fight will happen Bee-ob.
     
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    Delahoya is on the decline and I see PBF wining by a comfortable margin this time. It will be interesting if DHL tries to jab the hell out of Money though.
     
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    :rolleyes: both DLH and Mayweather want easy fights..thats why they fight each other....

    DLH knows that if he lose to Mayweather the beating won't be bad...not like the kinda beating Miguel Cotto would lay on him.....

    Mayweather thinking...if i lose..i would lose to DLH..not that big a deal..and i probably won't get the thorough beatdown Cotto would lay on Pretty boy...


    Cotto vs. De La Hoya would probably be bigger than the first Mayweather fight...but DLH knows he will get beat...badly...
     
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    I agree mostly with this.
    DLH Doesn't want to mess with Cotto's body attack.
    PBF will never fight Cotto or Williams, & he needs to make up for his performance against DLH last time.
     
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    plus they're thinking our first fight made the most money ever so why not do it again
     
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    get real. if you believe this then you require a labotomy.

    it wouldn't even do close to 2.4 million homes. not to mention delahoya wouldn't want to split profits with arum. delahoya has been pissed at arum ever since arum made more money off the trinidad fight than delahoya did
     
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    this is dubious
     
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    This sucks. I can't recall one highlight from the first fight.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    if you think the fight will suck don't watch it.

    I don't care to see it but who the fuck in their right mind would pass up 30 million + dollars. then there are a few retards claiming delahoya actually won.

    easy money and the cotto fight will be there later this year. its a tougher sell, they will need to get more creative with 24-7
     
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    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    No reason at all for this fight, other then like posted earlier, an easy payday for both fighters.

    TFK
     
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    This was talked about earlier in the week in the PR article that was talking about Cotto-Gomez.
     
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    Sure DLH knows the beating won't be as bad. Lets face it you can't be critical of Floyd wanting to fight DLH when Arum is trying to match Cotto with DLH for the same reason. Beatable and a ton of paper.
     
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    I don't care to see DLH fight again. I don't care who it is.

    This really sucks with all the great fights that could be being made right now at WW
     
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    De La Hoya has no chance. Why this is even considered is beyond me.
     
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    agREED...

    Sure, DeLa's STILL the "Money Guy" N Boxing, but he's STAGNATING the Sport More than Anything @ This Point...DeLa's like that Jealous Ex-Girlfriend that REFUSES to Leave U Alone even After U've Broken up w/Her...She Calls U All Day, Shows Up to the Crib UNannounced & All that...That's what DeLa's Doing...

    When Floyd was Negotiating w/Hatton, DeLa Tried to Make a Fight w/Hatton...KNOWING Floyd-Cotto would B THE BEST Fight of 2008, DeLa was Negotiating w/Cotto...Now he's Doing Likewise w/Floyd:rolleyes: ...Floyd & Cotto DON'T NEED DeLa & a Win Over Him Helps NATHAN Except their Wallets...

    What REALLY Sucks is DeLa has NOfuckingINTENTIONS of Campaigning @ 147, yet he PERSISTS N Negotiating w/Welters...

    Dude Fights 1nce a Year, ALWAYS N May & he Expects the Boxing World to BOW DOWN to his Demands:rolleyes: ...The Shit is Getting OLD, Honestly...



    REED:cool:
     
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    DLH is your ex chick when you have Jessica Biel as your new girl.
     
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    MAYWEATHER - DELA HOYA 2 BAD NEWS FOR FIGHT FANS

    Honestly, nobody wants this rematch other than the people who made money off of it. The 1<SUP>st</SUP> fight was probably the worst “superfight†since Trinidad-ODLH. With the way the 1<SUP>ST</SUP> Floyd-ODLH fight went, it almost seemed like Oscar and Floyd had made an arrangement to go easy on each other. Neither one looked like they’d been in a fight when it was over and neither one really looked like they went out trying to hurt the other. This time I expect more of the same. In fact this is nothing more than an elaborate setup to rob the people of their money. Neither guy has any intention of giving their all for the fans. I can’t imagine who would be dumb enough to pay for this, especially if they happened to have witnessed the 1<SUP>st</SUP> fight.

    Floyd fans should be pissed because the guy is already constantly talking about retiring and this fight should give him more reason to actually follow through on those plans. For one his bank account will be as full as it will ever be, and he’ll be another year older by the time this fight is done, so I’d say it’s just a waste on his career. Taking another pointless Oscar fight is going to steal what could have been a fight against more live opponents like Williams, or Cotto.

    What does either fighter gain from this besides big money? For Floyd nothing, because he already proved himself the first time and ODLH is over the hill anyway. It’s the same for Oscar who has no real chance of winning. If he did it’s a big win, but still he’s not really a serious contender but rather someone on the outside looking in who picks his spot as soon as he sees he can make the biggest payday with the minimalist pain. If you believe not wanting to disappoint his wife is the real reason he won’t fight Cotto, you’re naïve’. I believe it has less to do with that and more to do with having his ribs tenderized and his bladder filled with blood.

    It is so obvious that these 3 (Arum) are merely cashing in that it feels like the government is behind the whole thing. Fight fans should be angrily voicing their displeasure with this whole fiasco and even boycotting it. I don’t buy PPV’s anyway, but I feel like I should be leading a march on <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Washington</st1:place></st1:State> or something, it’s disgraceful. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
     
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    People won't be interested in this fight as in the first one, so in some ways, they're going to lose money if they invest the same amount of money they did the first time. De La Hoya should've taken a fight with Margarito, Cotto or even Cintron, and win in impressive fashion (which is very unlikely) to gain back rep and make people actually interested in this rematch. Floyd is about the money, so that doesn't surprise me. He will fight Cotto after this fight if Arum offers him an 8 figure contract, not just 8 million.
     
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    I don't think anyone is under the illusion it isn't about money. Doesn't mean we have can't express our dissaproval.
     
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    Mosley coming off the Cotto loss is more interesting then Floyd-Oscar 2. It's frustrating the dumb politics that cause Oscar to be a bigger money maker than more exciting fighters simply because he was promoted better and won a gold medal.
     
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    Meh, De La Hoya is no longer attached to the sport we post about daily, he doesn't have a weight division, he doesn't have to look behind him for mandatories or contenders, he's a vegas attraction
     

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