Steve Forbes vs Nicolay Valuev

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  1. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    On paper you'd think that Valuev would be too big. However Forbes fights tall therefore nullifying the height advantage for Valuev.

    Given Forbes exceptional hand speed and reflexes which are better than Valuev's i think you have a UD for Steve Forbes.
     
  2. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Agree...plus Forbes has decent power and can really carry the weight well.....

    Forbes by UD
     
  3. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Size means zero advantage in boxing. Bob Fitsimmons knocked out big guys and he was a middleweight, and there are plenty of examples of smaller guys beating middleweights so we can safely assume that any piss-weight fighter would kill Valuev. Just like former midget champs would beat him, since new techniques don't help in boxing either
     
  4. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    That's mostly true, but i think Valuev would be hell for a lot of lightweights. However Steve Forbes ability to fight tall makes the difference here.
     
  5. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I still think Oscar can find a way to beat Forbes though. It's all about styles, cos apparently they make fights.
     
  6. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    I can't envision a scenario in which Oscar wins once his height is taken away by someone who can fight tall the way Forbes is capable of doing.
     
  7. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Even with that disadvantage, Oscar can jab and that has to count for something. Look at how easily Hopkins outboxed Forbes, even though Steve fought tall.
     
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    whiskey Czarcasm

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    The Hopkins fight was an abberation. Also Oscar abandonded his jab against Mayweather who doesn't fight tall. The moment Oscar is encountered with Forbes' tall fightingness he'll once again dispense the jab and go into a shell.
     
  9. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    So Oscar dispensed the jab against short fightingness, so because of that, you assume he will do it against tall fightingness?

    :eek:ld:
     
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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    Whiskey- this is some funny shit bro... :lol: :bears: :laughing:
     
  11. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    I don't assume. :nono:

    I know.
     
  12. Bob N. Weave

    Bob N. Weave WBC Champion

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    Valuev via 1st rd dickslap.
     
  13. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Can a short fighter who fights tall beat a tall fighter who fights short if the short fighter is tall and the tall fighter is fat?
     
  14. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    No, if the short fighter fights fat
     
  15. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    AHA!!!...

    But James Toney is a Short, Fat Fighter who Most Certainly DOES NOT Fight Fat:nono: ...


    REED
     
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    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    If a Short Fighter can FIGHT Tall, Can a Short Basketball Player PLAY Tall???...

    Fuuuuuurthermore, Can Joe Pesci ACT Tall???


    REED:dunno:
     
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    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    As for this Mythical Matchup, Even though Valuev's Arm is Probably Loooooooonger than Forbes ENTIRE Body, REED Thinks Steve could OUTJAB him to a Clear-Cut Points Victory...


    REED:cool:
     
  18. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Don't forget that Forbes is a former lightweight champion who lost his title on the scale. He's a natural heavyweight who shrank himself down to the lightweight crown and was never defeated in the ring.
     
  19. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I agree Toney does not fight fat very well. Mark Breland used to fight fat
     

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