Boxing Fans to STOP & SMELL the Roses Sometimes...

Some of Us Spend Waaaaaaaaay MORE Time BITCHING about what a Guy ISN'T Doing than they Do APPRECIATING what he IS Doing...

STOP & SMELL the Roses Every Now & Then...

Case N Point, Floyd Mayweather...N his Last 3 Fights, he's Beaten THE LINEAR Welterweight Champion, the Biggest STAR N ALL of Boxing (N the BIGGEST Fight EVER) & THE LINEAR Jr Welterweight Champion (Top 5-10 Fighter N the World REGARDLESS of Weight)...

But Instead of Sitting Back APPRECIATING what is UNDENIABLY an Impressive 3 Fight Run, Boxing Fans BITCH about how "Boring" the Baldomir Fight was, How the DeLa Bout was More of an "Event" than a Prizefight & How Hatton is Supposedly "Smaller" than Floyd...

REED has a Feeling that if U Lined Up EVERY Fighter Floyd "SHOULD" Face & He Faced them ALL N the Same Night, there'd STILL B Fans Out there BITCHING ...

Other than Arguably Miguel Cotto, WHAT OTHER Fighter has a RECENT 3 Fight String as IMPRESSIVE as Floyd's, N Terms of how MEANINGFUL they were???:dunno:

& If Floyd BEATS Cotto this Year, even that WON'T B Enough for Some of U...


REED

 

Some of us don't like the roses and are informed enough to make our own decisions. Some (shock horror) STILL don't like Mayweather, or his charade. Some even think he smells more of bullshit, than of any flower.

Individuality has a place in boxing.

 

I acknowledge Floyd is an excellent fighter, but I don't need to like him.

I don't care for his style in the ring, especially against top opposition, and I don't like his persona.

Somehow I just don't find any of his fights exciting, even though as a fighter he is impressive. His fights against Chico, Castillo, Baldomir, Oscar, Hatton etc, none of them were exciting.

Somehow Roy jones, even fighting bums, managed to be more exciting.

 

It's NOT about "Liking" Mayweather...@ NO Point has REED Suggested Anybody LIKE Mayweather:nono: ...

But the FACT is, he's had an a VERY MEANINGFUL 3 Fight Run...The Type that SHOULD Quiet Some of the Bitching, but it Hasn't...

There IS a Place N Boxing for "Individuality", but There's ALSO a Place for OBJECTIVITY...Or Being SATISFIED for 1nce...


REED

 

Your Stance is FAIR...

REED has No Problem w/those who Don't Care for Floyd's STYLE or Personality...Again, NOBODY has to "LIKE" Him...

It's those who CLING to the Margarito's & Williams' of the World, those who INSIST Floyd is "Ducking" This Guy or That Guy who REED is Addressing...

N the 1st Half of your 1st Sentence, U Acknowledged Waaaaaaaaay More than MOST Floyd Naysayers EVER Would...There's Guys ON THIS SITE that TRUELY Believe Floyd Mayweather ISN'T an "Excellent Fighter"...


REED::

 

Personally, I've been happy with two of his last three, but NOT the De La Hoya fight. I never liked that fight and it spoke to all the things I hate about the sport. It was all pomp and bullshit. No importance at all. Just one big money grab.

We ask LOTS of our best fighters. Plenty of people bitch about Pacquiao and he had the toughest run in recent memory a few year back - suffering a loss along the way - but people still cried. Its the nature of the fan to NEVER be satisfied with everyone and everything.

As for Mayweather? The Hatton fight was nice. Better than nice in a way. But it wasn't all it should have been. They fight should have taken place a couple of years ago. I'm not blaming anyone for that, simply putting the actual fight into focus. Hatton @ 147, now, wasn't what he was a year or two prior.

Anyway, we are what we are.

 

Baldomir,DLH, Hatton>Judah,Mosley,Contender Gomez

 

I agree brother Reed. And what kills me most are the people who claim that they are fans of the sport but yet don't like a guy who has tons of those skills that they say they like. Here's my thing. I'm a fan of boxers and what they do in the ring. What he does and how he acts outside the ring means jack shit to me. I could care less how he throws his money around or if he tries to act like a "gangster" like so many of you claim that he does. WHich is so far from the truth. Anyways PBF is a fuken prodigy in the ring and game has to recoginze game which PBF has plenty of GAME. I'll Holla 5000

 

This comes across as very selective, in terms of who's "roses" your "smelling".

The Hatton fight was a joke considering the talent in the division.

If it was say, DLH, instead of Mayweather you'd probably have chimed in saying completely the opposite of what you are now.

And the retirement talk sure seemed to die down when the DLH rematch-talk began to pick up steam. Of course, after that fight he'll probably revisit it.

 

As a person, I hate PBF because he's a asshole. As a fighter I have great respect for him and admit he is the best now!

 

Quick question. How do you know he's an asshole. Have you ever met him? Also isn't he the type of person that likes to sign every autograph while guys like DLH have no thoughts of getting close to his fans. I'll Holla 5000

 

Did you see him supporting De La Hoya?

 

No Hexone does not support DLH. But so many people on this board love DLH and the whack shit he pulls but hate PBF even though PBF shows the fans nothing but love. That's all I was getting at. From what I've heard about PBF is that he wants to give everyone all the interviews, sign all the autographs, and shake all the hands but yet he's an asshole. I'll Holla 5000

 

First of all, why is it that whenver people complain about something a fighter isn't doing, the people who support that fighter always respond with "ifs"?

"REED has a Feeling that if U Lined Up EVERY Fighter Floyd "SHOULD" Face..."

"& If Floyd BEATS Cotto this Year..."

...as though that kind of speculation actually "proves" their point.

I agree that Floyd's fight with Baldomir was a meaningful fight that Floyd needed for his legacy/credibility... but there's NOTHING revisionist or unjustified about the criticism for Floyd's fights with DLH and Hatton, so trying to imply that there is just isn't right. BOTH fights had clearly lost their luster or meaning well before the fights were even PROPOSED, just as Mayweather's fight with Judah had when Judah was embarassed by Baldomir. The fights are simply being judged and accepted for what they were, and being neither underrated or (as you're actually doing) OVERrating them.

The points you made about Hoya and Hatton are true, but that does NOT automatically translate to the fights being "undeniably impressive". DeLaHoya disgraced himself in his last big event vs. Hopkins, and got a fight with Mayweather ONLY off of his money-making clout and nothing more. And Hatton barely edged Collazo (an unheralded fighter that Mosley beat easily) in his only move up to welter and then RETREATED back down to 140, where he still was when Mayweather suddenly decided he wanted to fight him. Both fights were money-making fights, yes, but neither had the actual MEANING that you're trying to imply that they did.

As far as Mayweather's "3 fight string", fighters such as Calzaghe, Hopkins, and Pavlik, among others, have recently made bigger statements in one or two fights than Mayweather did in those three fights put together.

 

I jut dunno why you need to pick on another fighter as a means to defend your one. That seems to me like "sure, my guys guilty, but look at this other one for some perspective". Mayweather is what he is. There's a reason so many people are divided on him and dislike him. He plays on it.

Oscar? He wants everybody to like him and he's done alright out of it as well. Whether he's nice or not, the perception is that hes a classy guy and it shows in the bank and in the sold out arena's

 

That's an interesting point.

For YEARS, DeLaHoya has been criticized for doing much the same as Mayweather is now.

Remember especially at 135 and 140, he was criticized for not fighting the best fighters in his own weight class, and instead fighting guys like MA Gonzales, JJ Molina, and Genaro Hernandez up a weight class from where those fights "should've" taken place.

Hell, people even tried to criticize him for fighting Pernell Whitaker, claiming he was really hand-picking a "smaller" man there... even though Whitaker was a champion at 147 AND 154 and it was DeLaHoya who was coming up from 140! And I know in that instance, Reed was one of the ones who shared in that criticism...

 

And the only Welterweight Champ he beat at Welterweight was????

 

In Floyd's defense, Judah never lost the undisputed welterweight championship in the ring before he lost to Baldomir. Baldomir didn't lose until he fought PBF and was the linear undisputed title.

Floyd defeated the last two undisputed welterweight champions in back to back fights and that should not be forgotten:nono:

Don't get drunk on alphabet soup :nono:

 

yes Mayweather beat the LINEAR welterweight champion....but come on....fucking Carlos BUMDOMIR....it was like handling over the belt to his next challenger...regardless of who it was....had it not been Mayweather...then Margarito..or MOsley...or Clottey...

 

The choice of the last 3 opponents for Mayweather have been alright with me as I wanted to see those fights (well, I didn't care much to see the Baldomir fight despite its historical/linear value).

However, a rematch with the cross-dresser is fucking shitty.

 

So you think that Cotto's resume is better than PBF's??:doh:

 

Floyd's ability and contribution to the sport are undeniable. He does gain some detractors due to his shitty attitude, but there is no denying that he is a great fighter.

 

at 147......yes...


career resume...NO.....Mayweather a higher quantity of opponents..Genaro...Corrales, Castillo, DLH, Hatton....etc...

 

The dlh fight was important for boxing because it showed that boxing can kick the shit out of the best mma ppv.
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The Hatton fight was important because it matched up two undefeated p4p guys. The revisionists on this fight piss me off.
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The Baldomir fight? Just proves that the linear title can be held by someone who isn't very good. Not sure if it makes the top 20 of Floyd's best wins.

 

Genaro and Corrales mean fuck all,.. So far, Cotto has one name on his resume that slaughters Frauds down the guts like a deer, Shane Mosely, who is a beast of an opponent, and credit due for that one, you worm.

 

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Pretty funny. Some of the same people who picked Hatton to beat Floyd, now try to act as if his win over Hatton was no big deal.

 

I never knock Floyd for his competition. I understand even when they are money fights.

But an argument can be made as to who can be the #1 at 147 real soon. Floyd hasn't fought anybody from that weight in a while.

AFter Baldomir he fought Delahoya at 154, then Hatton coming from 140, and now he will fight Delahoya again.

neither one of these guys campaigns at 147 I don't care if they move up or down to that weight.

how can a guy like Cotto eventually claim to be the best welterweight if Floyd keeps fighting those guys while holding the 147 tittle?:dunno:

It's the same shit with Hopkins at 175 and not fighting the best from 175 just guys moving up in weight:doh:

 

Valid point made.

 

I'll give Floyd a hard time if he stays active at 147 after the De La Hoya rematch and doesn't fight the guy who comes out of the Cotto/Margarito/Cintron mini-tourney.

 

Why are we even talking about Floyd, he is irrelevant. This whole thread was a disguise to masterbate to him.