PAVLIK-TAYLOR II ROUND BY ROUND

I gave neither fighter the benefit of the doubt

i like both of them and scored it the way i saw it.

 

Wow, Dan Rafael can't score a fight.

A draw? That was 8 rounds to 4 Pavlik. Taylor did well, much better than the first fight, and he was quite competitive, but overall it was not a particularly close fight.

Taylor, amazingly, looked a bit better than normal. Slightly less wild and jittery. Pavlik looked more or less the same, but for some reason didn't seem to be punching as hard as usual. Maybe he was just waiting for a good opportunity, or for Taylor to tire a bit, before unloading the big guns.

 

Nah,

Dont' worry about him!! He had Williams/Quintana a draw,which he thought was so boring that neither guy should of won!! Espescially Quintana!!:bears::::laughing:

 

dsimon writes:

Stewart was horribly unfair to Pavlik. His statement that Pavlik's stock went down was truly unforgivable. He pretty much neglected the intelligent and systematic way Pavlik fought in his efforts to credit Taylor. Both guys did a great job to me. Yes Taylor tired the last few rounds... after beiong pursued and pressured relentlessly the entire fight. Yes Pavlik could not Ko Jermaine... but he almost did the last few rounds and fought smart.

Stewart's comments were beyond dumb, his other epiphany that Taylor's shots were bigger (which Merchant called him on) was another very stupid thing to say. No excuse IMO. You don't have to shot on Peter to compliment Paul :dunno:.

You might think this was a good fight, or as I think it was a great fight, but both fighters were beyond reproach tonight... they both fought very well and Stewart was somehow not aware of that... he was somehow only aware that Taylor did well. Yes he talked of Pavlik creating pressure but his expectations for Pavlik were unrealistic and unfair.

 

Yes and is still say the Quintan figth sucked

it might have been good if you called it wrestlemania.

 

Yes i still say the Quintana fight sucked

It might have been good if you called it wrestlemania.

 

WTF are you talking about?

 

Quintan did some good wrestling against williams

i'm surprised he didn't tag team johm ruiz to come on into the ring and body slam williams.

 

He didnt need to body slam Williams considering he was hitting him at will, and controlling the pace of the fight.

Where'd this simp come from?

 

X, I love your sig about Roger Mayweather, but it's funny that Roger said that and seems to forget about a certain clubfighter with a 13-11 record blasting him out and going on to winning a world title with a really poor-looking record: Freddie Pendleton.

Freddie was a real-life Rocky: a tough clubfighter with a crappy record and a good punch who won a world title

 

I had it 117-111 to Pavlik with the last 6 going to kelly..a couple of close ones...that's the same way the judge got there.

Not sure how you can roll your eyes at a 2 (or even one) round margin when there are close rounds? That tends to come from fans who are new to the sport.

 

Rafael has Taylor winning, he just made a calculation error

 

I heard him on ESPN after the fight and he said he had it even :dunno:

 

Um, you are aware that I was rolling my eyes at the two WIDE margins, NOT the 2-point one, right? :nono:

 

yes, but if you had his scorecard, you'll see he has Taylor winning

 

How can you read my post any other way?

9-3,8-4,7-5...it's all the same thing with close rounds, especially if it is the close rounds that are the causing the variance.

 

His card must be wrong. He said 114-114 like 15 minutes after the fight was over. No way he forgot an even round (that prevented a draw) in the last round.

 

well he was on espn news talking about the fight. When asked who won he said you can make an argument for Pavlik and explained why but mentioned he had it even.

My point is regardless of the scorecard he didn't see Pavlik winning. At least he didn't talk about the fight like somebody won. :dunno:

 

I see what you're saying now, but I still don't agree.

Close rounds don't deprive a fighter of the rounds that he's definitely earned. Taylor had more than just 3 rounds that he won CLEARLY, that couldn't be swung the other way.

IMO, a draw was a much more realistic scorecard than 9-3.

 

I agree with your post, but I just take it for granted that any round I see as close will often be scored differently, even if I think it was clear, but close.

Here's my card, so if you can pick off some rounds you disagree with, I might rewatch if I get time:

pttpp(cls),t(cls),p(cls),p(cls),p(cls),p,p,p

 

I don't have my round-for-round scoring written down, but I know I had one of those late rounds you gave to Pavlik (I'm pretty certain it was round 10) being a BIG round for Taylor, without question in my mind.

 

I had it 9-3. A draw? :: Jesus.

 

Reading around some people actually think Taylor won. :doh: :shit:

 

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I wouldn't say Taylor is a bum but he got whupped

 

Not surprising considering some thought Williams beat Quintana. Some fuckers just simply cant score fights.

 

That's very surprising, from both fights. Anyone who could have Williams or Taylor winning, really, really can't score a fight.

They were both 8-4 type fights, possibly even 9-3.

 

I haven't seen the fight yet, but not even Cupey scored only three rounds. You guys claiming 3 rounds need to put your score card on here so the people who haven't seen it yet can critique them :warning: Then we will find out who really can't score a fight.

 

Well, i just tried to post a reply that got wiped out. Here's the summary:

Jarman 115-113 was in the majority for 8 rounds.
Moretti 116-112 was in the majority for 10 rounds.
Trowbridge 117-111 was in the majority for 9 rounds.

Majority scoring: 117-111 with 3 unanimous rounds--1,11, and 12.

mE: 117-111 and agree with the majority on 10 rounds.

Obviously, if the majority is wrong, agreeing with them isn't a good thing, but it is step in the wrong direction for criticizing.

 

JKGaucho: (DC): Any word on the buy rate for last week?

Dan Rafael: (1:43 PM ET ) Nothing definite but I am told it did around 225,000 buys, maybe a little more.