You are fucking INSANE, almost everyday you make these references to Taylor being a "devastating KO puncher". He's not FFS :: Who the HELL has he KO'd for you to keep thinking he's some 1 shot power puncher? Nobody, he hasn't KO'd anybody, and scarcely even hurts people with single shots. He has a bit above average power for a middleweight, and nothing more. He decked pavlik because pavlik stuck his chin out like an idiot, and it was a few punches, and he couldn't put pavlik away. He also couldn't hurt welterweight spinks and junior middleweight ouma. Where the FUCK do you get this idea that he is a "devastating puncher"? Quite simply, he is not.
If REED Isn't Mistaken, Brother DSimon has Said Taylor COULD or CAN B a "Devastating Puncher" w/Improved Technique... REED
Man, this forum is "ROUGH"!!! :warning: Mr. Mexican Wedding Shirt. Please do not drive Mr. DSimon away. He is our resident Zen Master Jew Hippie. Don't scare away the little combat knowledge we DO have on this site. :nono:
dsimon writes: You simply can't please everyone. According to DoubleL I gladhand and suck up to posters I like and that is the basis for my opinions.... I "never have an original thought." So when I have an idea that is contraversal I am fucking insane? :dunno: I think that Taylor could learn to knock people the fuck out if he works on relaxing and fighting in a way where he can get more comfortable letting his hands go. I think the jab stifles him in that regard because it is unnatural for him. There are a lot of fighters who are not big on the jab. Mexican fighters do not generally use the jab that much.
You didn't say he has the potential to be, look at my quote above, you said he IS a devastating KO puncher. There's nothing wrong with beign controversial Mr Simon, it's just that you really are completely wrong in this case. Taylor simply doesn't hit THAT hard, he has decent enough power sure, but he is not, and never shall be a KO puncher. If he was, he would have taken out ouma and spinks, and finished pavlik.
dsimon writes: No I didn't. I said that Sanders like Taylor is deceptive in that, despite Sander's Ko percentage and his win loss record he can be a devistating puncher. And yes the comparison was meant to highlight that Taylor could be a devistating puncher and like sanders has the potential to do a lot more as a puncher. Do you think Sander's has reached his potential? He comes into the ring fat, yet he has one of the best shots in the division. Yeah Mex I do think that Taylor has that potential. I don't know why this bothers you but fuck you thats what I believe. It's not like i didn't give a reason for it. :notallthere:
That's the part of the comparison I don't get. Sanders knocked out Wladimir, came close to it against Rahman, he batted Al Cole (a durable, albeit blown-up, heavyweight)...and even against Vitali he was dangerous for several rounds. Taylor hasn't come that close to in most of his recent fights...and he's spent much of his career fighting smaller fighters (he was fighting junior middleweights regularly until the Joppy fight). Dsimon mentioned Sanders often came in out of shape...but he was still a threat because of his size, handspeed and power..IOW, Sanders was a natural puncher. Taylor needs work to become one.
dsimon writes: Hopkins. Hopkins was adamant in both fights about staying away from Taylor because he knew he had to be careful. In both fights Hopkins had to be measured, it is what slowed him down in the early rounds. Hopkins tasted some of Taylor's power and was careful about engaging him inside.
dsimon writes: I agree that Taylor needs work but I don't think there is a need to define one guy as a natural and the other as something else. Sanders did develop his punching gifts more than Taylor, but like Taylor he is a strong southpaw with fast hands. He is more ring savy and fought ina division where guys are right in front of him. Smaller guys with their mobility are hard to KO. You have to cut the ring down and trap them against the ropes, etc. I think if Taylor fought bigger guys who were right in front of him and traded and he took some of his natural strength and speed and worked on going to the body aggessively he would have some success and develop as a big puncher. I don't buy the natural argument because we are talking about being a strong fighter who can consistantly win in a division, not a hall of fame career
Sanders basically steamrolled "smaller" guys like Cole and Czyz...he jumped on both guys and punched-in-bunches. I agree with your belief that Taylor has power, perhaps underrated power. It's his delivery that needs work, and he doesn't punch in combination very well.
dsimon writes: Sanders also showed what he could do when he did Vlad. Unfortunately the guy is lazy and does not train. He even actually buckled Vitali in the first round of that fight. I agree with you on Taylor. I think it would be worth a try to work on him and try to emphasize his combos, particularly to the body and try to work out his delivery... get him to relax more and lead in with punches he feels comfortable throwing.
I think he needs to work on planting his feet, then he can work on following through......he seems to be ready to twist his ankle it seems to me, he is so unbalanced looking :dunno: Maybe it's just me.........when he goes back or cicrles, he looks like he drags his heal too :notallthere:
dsimon writes: He also doesn't explode on a lot of his shots... He gets the heavy hands in there but not the snap, the follow through, to make them stick.
no doubt that Taylor is wasting what could be his best asset. if I trained him, he'd KO everyone at the rate he's going.. he will be mopping floors at Dairy Queen in 2 years
