The Daily Obamanation .... ALL ROLLED INTO ONE

:doh: ...no one with a ronald reagan avatar can be taken seriously with ANY liberal matters. if you don't like the man fine...you are most certainly entitled to your personal opinion but don't try to pass it off as fact because if you show up on any liberal blog/forum (where olbermann is typically loved) with a ronald reagan avatar talking this mess, you'd have 50 immediate responses blasting you to pieces inside of 10 minutes. only those with a liberal/progressive tilt can give a reasoned and/or unbiased assessment of olbermanns perfromance.

 

everything with you is always about race......you trolls really have taken over this place.

 

forgot all about that.

 

classic liberal response

figures

dont have anything to say about the argument, just try and make the person look like a hate monger or racist or because he is a certain way that isnt your way he must be unreasonable

point is, you have no argument

and as for olberman, i used to LOVE him when he was on ESPN, now hes just a clown, passing his show off as "news"

 

well i forget the thread so continue here if ya like

 

Wait......what?

So you have to be liberal to give an unbiased opinion on Olberman?

That don't make no sense.

TFK

 

OK, let's play Devil's advocate......you ONLY show up here to talk about race :doh: You are absent from other threads, coincidence? ::

 

:laughing:

thats what i was thinking

 

:doh:

 

who said anything about a hate monger or racist??? why does it always come down to this with pinheads....thank God america isn't a reflection of this now shit forum....barack wouldn't stand a chance.

btw: there was nothing classic about phonetap's posting, just common sense. you are a conservative so therefore there's a high statistical probability you won't like liberal commentators. duh! with the execption of joe scarborough, phonetap tends to not like conservative commentators...it has nothing to do with race/gender or personal hate...he just don't agree with their politics.

lastly, don't think you fool phonetap for one second...if olbermann's politics were like those of sean hannity, you'd still love him. if you say anything otherwise, you'd be a fucking liar. now go ahead and lie...:laughing:

 

not surprising...sense often doesn't make sense to you.

 

i have no idea what your getting at in that 1st paragraph? are you saying that im a racist?

i dont like olberman because hes an idiot, not because hes a liberal, i have tons of liberal friends, dont agree with them but i like them

i might, might not

i think rush limbaugh is an idiot, so there goes your "theory"

 

not too smart are you...phonetap bets you think the only reason why phonetap supports obama is because he's half white/half black like him right? :laughing:

 

your an idiot

 

probably

since you cant name anything hes done or any specific reason why you like him, other than "hes inspirational"

 

Yeah, saying you need to be a liberal to give an unbiased opinion about another liberal, that makes shitloads of sense.

:dunno:


TFK

 

:laughing:

beat me to it

 

stop acting like a damn moron...don't you remember what you say posting to posting??? YOU said this:

"dont have anything to say about the argument, just try and make the person look like a hate monger or racist or because he is a certain way that isnt your way he must be unreasonable"

YOU introduced hate mongering and racism into this discussion, NOT phonetap. phonetap has not accused you of being a racist so stop trying to go that direction...you know what? fuck it :doh: , phonetap will leave the discussion for now. you kiddies have fun continuing this nonsensical banter...

 

what??

YOU are the one who said i couldnt have an unbiased opinion of olberman because i was a conservative

liberals are the ones who are always saying conservatives are hate mongers or racists or unreasonable, much like you did in the post prior to the one with the quote you posted

thats why i said that, fucken liberals always have some excuse as to why an argument isnt valid, and usually it has nothing to do with the argument itself

you said with people like me (or atleast people on this forum, but you were responding to me specifically) that obama has no shot, what exactly did you mean by that then fuckface??

 

ok lets air this out:

any and all obama supporters:

why specifically do you support obama, what specific policies do you like and why

and none of this "hes inspirational shit"

it would be great if you could answer the question of what legislation hes passed as well

 

........

 

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Obviously, but he could have been blacker.....it wouldn't have made a difference, as long as there is some black involved in the discussion. Your latest thread was about whom? :: Any post of your always comes back to Obama, even in the Conservative threads. Before Obama was a topic, you never posted unless it had to do with a racist title or a black athelete. You are obsessed with what you can't have I guess :dunno:

 

Anyone have any idea what threads tap posted in today......anyone :dunno:

opcorn:

 

This ONE.

But you already knew that. opcorn:

 

:laughing:




You must be racist too......

 

1- I like the fact that he opposes tax cuts for the rich when they don't need it, unlike us who are in the middle to the lower class, along with eliminating the tax breaks that rich people get, along with those corparate companies and actually give tax breaks to those who need it. Wants to provide tax credits for middleclass homeowners who struggle with their mortgages.

2-I like the fact that he rightfully opposed military action in Iraq from the beginning, whether or not he's able to end the war is another matter simply because we are in so deep now.

3- Like the fact that he wants to create a health insurance program for those who do not have an employer that provides it or those who don't qualify for other health care programs.

4- Wants to solve the crisis in Iran diplomatically and leave military action as a last resort. Its nice to have an administration that would actually be willing to TALK to others unlike Bush and his crooks who just prefer to have conflict all the time.

5- Wants to reform the "No Child Left Behind" program and make college more affordable to those who want to go to school but cannot due to financial situations.

6- Though he doesn't agree with same sex marriage, he's not going out of his way to propose a constitutional ban of some sort(Give me a break). There are more important issues at hand than gay marriage.



Thats but a few of the issues I agree with him on. Now as far as the man himself, here's what I like..

1- Very likable guy. I have friends who met him and tell me so.

2- Very eloquent speaker unlike our current President today. Very charismatic, talented, and smart.

3- Does not represent the status quo, which is what this country seems to be so afraid to get away from. John McCane is the current example of status quo(War monging, boring personality, moralizing like Bill O'Reilly, and flip flopping on tax cut programs on whether he agrees with Bush on it or not).

4- He doesn't play the typical role that the Republicans play of trying to ostracize another candidate with childish insults and such. There's a reason he appeals to some Republicans and Independents.



Now whats your reason for believing McCane is better??..

 

The only thing I consistantly here in this post is "he wants to do this, and he wants that" Give a plan. Don't tell me what you want to do, tell me how you'll do it.

 

Who's to say HOW he's gonna do it???... We really won't know until he gets elected, won't we??... Its the JOB of every candidate presidential or otherwise, to SELL themselves to his or her audience. I don't know 100% if Obama will come through on what he says. Just like its impossible to say if John McCane would come through on everything he says.


All I know is that Obama is a fresh face. He's young, intelligent, and lets face it, he has a HUGE following.. His charisma ALONE has got people listening to his speeches. I like that he isn't the same old boring shit that we've been dealing with for the past 8 years with Bush and his clown sidekicks preaching morality all day about being anti gay, anti abortion, pro gun ownership, pro war, etc.. John McCane is just an extension of status quo that is just BORING... He's been at it since 2000 trying to become President and I'm just tired of seeing the same people over and over again. We need somebody new up there, regardless of whether he'll bring "change" or not.

 

Like I said,Obama has promised EVERYTHING but the sun::

 

Hmm there's a novel approach. Let's run a campaign based on getting my message and different ideas than what are currently being used heard.

I'm sure that McCain is going around promising nothing Telling the voters to just vote for me because you know my name.