When George Lost to Matt Serra...

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  1. Buddy Rydell

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    From the slow-motion replay on UFC Unleashed, it looked like George took TWO big right hands to right behind the ear. The first one screwed his balance and legs completely. The second started him going down over and over from the ensuing pressure. It almost looked like two Tim Witherspoonesque can-opener-type shots.

    Does this mean George has a bad punch withstandability or does it mean he simply got zapped in the sweet spot twice because all of Serra's shots before that to the front of his face and jaw didn't seem to faze him.

    Obviously Serra's gonna look to duplicate that. I wonder if George will adapt and use a high guard to counter and block those types of punches? I also wonder if Serra can get it done again.
     
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    Just watched the fight myself on Spike, one of my favorites.

    In my opinion, that's the style to beat GSP. As Hughes and Koshcheck have shown, it doesn't matter how good your ground game is, that's not the way to beat GSP.

    GSP can get hit, and when he gets hit, he doesn't have great recovery powers. Serra hit him with glancing blows and had him off balance, then nailed him with a clean shot and then just beat the living bejesus out of him until the fight was stopped.

    Serra has as good of BJJ as anyone in the UFC, and it's a good weapon for him if he needs it, but if he's gonna win the rematch, he needs to keep the fight on their feet and try and expose GSP's chin.

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    He didn't hit him on the chin,he hit him in back of the head thats why he was on queer street.
     
  4. TFK

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    Those weren't solid hits to the back of the head, he looked more off balance then anything. Then he got nailed with a hard punch to the face, and there was no coming back.

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  5. Buddy Rydell

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    The first one rocked his head sideways as did the second one. A head weighs 10 or more lbs and St. Pierre's head was ROCKED to one side. Then he took a sickening shot off the temple that usually drops people. Serra's got that type of overall body strength from a lifetime of gymnastics and BJJ. He's compact as hell and he nailed him with brutal shots. I think GSP will adjust and win. :dunno:
     
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    GSP got careless, that's all. Next time he will need to strike serra quickly, don't stand in front of him and wait for him to land. GSP must use his kicks to keep serra away and hurt him, just avoid trading punches.
     
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    GSP tried using kicks against Serra. He threw a lot of them, and wasn't able to do any damage. Serra's defense is deceptive. He get's hit, but he rarely takes a punch flush. If GSP tries to mix it up with Serra, he's gonna get KO'd again, unless he can keep Serra from getting on the inside, which I don't think he can.

    GSP's best bet, in spite of Serra's great BJJ, is to take him down and try to work a submission, or lay and pray to a decision. And that won't be easy to do.

    I think Serra wins the rematch in similiar fashion to the first.

    Now before everyone starts jumping on me, I will say I think overall, GSP is a much better fighter then Serra. Serra is a very good fighter, but he was somewhat of a journeyman before coming back on TUF, and I think his 'built for television' personality has a lot to do with where he is today, but in MMA, even more so then boxing, styles decide fights, and I just think Serra's style and skill set is gonna give GSP trouble every time they fight.

    So GSP is the better fighter, but Serra beats him again.

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    is that a word you just made up? :lol:
     
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    It was the biggest fuckign fluke KO in the history of MMA. St Pierre takes a shit and wipes his ass with Serra in the rematch.
     
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    I will make sure to put $20 on Serra. :bears:
     
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    That's about how REED Sees it...

    GSP Needs to Keep Serra OCCUPIED w/Kicks, Strikes & the Occasional Attempts @ Taking him Down...KEEP Serra on the DEFENSIVE...

    GSP is an Offensive FORCE w/SUSPECT Punch Resistance...Almost like an MMA Version of a PRIME Terry Norris...

    The KEY for GSP will B Taking Serra's Confidence EARLY...NOBODY Was MORE Shocked that Serra Won the 1st Fight than Serra HIMSELF...So N the Back of his Mind, he's WONDERING if he just Got Lucky...GSP Needs to IMMEDIATELY put Serra on the Defensive, IMMEDIATELY Take OWNERSHIP of the Cage...

    & REED Thinks he Will...REED Likes GSP to Win VERY IMPRESSIVELY N the 2nd or 3rd Round via Submission or G & P...1-Sided Bout, Similar to the 2nd Hughes-GSP Fight...


    REED:cool:
     
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    ArturoGatti WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Serra is a renowned black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, I don;'t think he will get submitted, unless it's a verbal tapout from punches or something. I think GSP will win a unanimous decision. Serra is again being underrated big time.
     
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    Don't understimate Pierre, he is a beast.

    Koscheck was meant to be an elite wrestler, and that's where he'd hold an advantage over Pierre.

    Pierre fucking manhandled him, even on the ground.
     
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    i am not, i think he will win. I just think Serra is too togh for Pierre to just walk over him. Remember, he took Penn and Karo the distance as well, albeit they were 3 round fights. Serra is a much better fighter than people give him credit for.
     
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    Because for as good a wrestler Koshcheck is, he has the wrong style to beat GSP. Hughes is a great wrestler too, and GSP dismantled him the last 2 fights.

    Serra laid the blueprint for beating GSP. If you're gonna beat him, you're gonna beat him standing up.

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    to answer the question directly, I say, yes, Georges probably does have a weak chin....Typically guys with longer skinnier necks and small bones dont take shots the best:dunno:
     
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    I agree with that. People act like he's some bum that just got lucky with Pierre, that's simply not true. Serra is a very good, solid fighter.
     
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    a lot of people only know Serra from TUF and just automatically lump him in with the mediocre fighters that were on the show.
     
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    It was no fluke, GSP got his ass lit up that night. That was as legit a win as any.
     
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    I don't care who wins the rematch really. I'm just happy that Matt Hughes got made to look like a bitch because he was so happy that Serra beat St. Pierre. Some fighters just have each other's number and maybe Serra has St. Pierre's.
     
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    Nothing fluke about beating a gus ass from start to finish. I am pulling for Serra to whup his ass again. GSP hype is in overdrive.
     
  23. Buddy Rydell

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    Pretty much. Sometimes new words need to be invented. :lol:
     
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    I agree with the earlier post that stated that Pierre is better overall,...but that Serra has the style that beats him more times than not.
     
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    It was a total fluke and the rematch will prove it when Serra slumps to the ground bloody and broken from GSP's assault.
     
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    GSP needs to get Serra in deep waters. Serra doesn't have the best cardio and has been very inactive.
     
  27. Trplsec

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    Matt Serra is 33 years old and recovering from a herniated disc. He isn't a huge striker like most seem to think. The GSP fight was his lone KO by strikes win.

    GSP is the superior MMA fighter, and as was mentioned earlier, he will adjust and handle Serra easily the second time around.
     
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    agree totally.....BUT, its MMA, anything can happen
     
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    Excellent point. And to me, that's the biggest part of the appeal for me.
     
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    I didn' pick Serra to win the rematch I'm just saying the first fight wasn't a fluke.

    A guy throws a punch with the intention to knock the other guy out, he lands that punch and proceeds to beat the shit out of the other guy.

    That is an ass whooping, not a fluke.
     

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