Floyd ducking Cotto

Baldomir vs Gomez is a pick em fight really. I'd favor Gomez because he's younger.

 

wow

 

When did Baldomir become that incredible powerhouse exactly? He's certainly a good fighter but far from elite. I'd pick him to beat Gomez, but I'd expect Gomez to put up a fight. He wouldn't look as inept as he did against Cotto. Baldo isn't a huge puncher, he isn't fast, he isn't that big and he has short arms. He's just very durable and persistent. That's probably enough to beat Gomez, but certainly not enough to dominate him.

 

It's not that I believe Baldo is a powerhouse, but rather I believe Gomez to be the equivalent of a sparring partner.

 

Gomez beat Luciano Perez with no problems. But Baldomir was awarded a gift decision over Perez, in a fight where Perez even wobbled Baldo once or twice.

Either way, it doesn't matter. They are equally shitty.

 

Well, he certainly looked like one on saturday night. I think he'd look better against Baldo, but we'll probably never know. Isn't Baldo retired?

 

not sure...not even really sure how this became a Baldo Vs Gomez arguement....

 

::

 

Cotto isn't retiring after each fight. If Floyd hadn't discussed retirement after every fight for the last two years, he could fight a trilogy with Gomez and I wouldn't care.

If his next fight is planned to be his last then it should be against Cotto.

Period.

 

Agreed :clap:

Baldomir is/was no great shakes, but Gomez is pretty damn limited in world terms. Game, tough and rugged he may be, but he is also almost devoid of anything near world level in terms of class and/or ability.

 

For one reason or another, both guys Cotto and Floyd, have made it fairly clear they don't really have much interest in each other. Fans of both can make arguements that the other is in the wrong, but does it really matter? Floyd was pretty clear he has no need to fight Cotto in the interview after Hatton, and Cotto just doesn't acknowledge anything about Floyd. I see it not happening.

 

Mayweather would rather chase fights with a better money/risk ratio, like the Fishnet rematch and Hatton rematch. If Cotto represented the biggest payday then I think he'd be more interested in the fight.

I think Cotto probably does want Mayweather, but doesn't seem that he is the type to really push Top Rank to make the fight. He just listens to them and fights who they tell him to.

If Mayweather wasn't chasing the easier big money fights and actually wanted Cotto soon, I still doubt we'd see it this year. I think we'd be getting Cotto-De La Hoya.

De La Hoya & Richard Schaefer= "we'll fight Cotto if negotiations with Mayweather fall through".

Cotto's team= "we prefer the De La Hoya match for the money"

Bob Arum= what do you think he would prefer, working with Mayweather, or working with Golden Snaggle Tooth again in a bigger money fight, with better exposure for Cotto, and probably an easier fight as well?

Cotto-De La Hoya is miles better than Mayweather-De La Hoya 2, but Cotto-Margarito is a true fight between world-class welterweights who are full-time fighters, who actually fight guys in their own weight class.

 

Exactly, I can't believe people here are acting like the Baldomir-Perez fight never happened.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I think Gomez would beat Baldomir based purely on that fight (personally, I don't know who would win that fight), but like Baron said, for anyone to claim that either fighter isn't in the (B) class of the other is ludacris.

 

Baldomir was undistputed champion. Nothing on Gomez record spells that.

 

Judah sure as hell didn't pick Baldomir because he thought there was any possible way he'd lose to him. ::

I don't care what he was champion of, he fucking sucks and so does Gomez.

 

Judah had to fight him to stay champion. He was a mandotory challenger.

 

baldomir is through now but he had a respectable run with wins over judah and clottey among others

let's not compare his career to that chump gomez, who has never beaten a top 30 welter.

 

Gomez beat Gatti just as bad and that is Baldomir's 2nd best win ever. Gomez would have had a damn good chance to beat the Judah that Baldomir beat that night too. As of now, Baldomir has a better resume but ONLY because of the Judah win.

 

:laughing: :: :laughing:

 

As much as I don't like Floyd,..it is preposterous to say that he is "ducking" Cotto.
IMO, Floyd is looking for the most money out there. He will continue his BS about Cotto's fanbase until the public demands the fight, thus driving up the ante.

Cotto needs to call out Mayweather by name more to boost up the hype. If he doesn't, then shame on him and his entourage.

 

He will. After he handles Margarito.

 

And he will handle Margarito. Quite handily too I might add.:clap:

 

What's so funny about it? Show me someone better than Judah and Gatti on Baldomir's resume. Baldomir's got what? 11 losses? He sucks, plain and simple.

 

Cmon man. Where is all this love for Alfonso Gomez coming from? I'm not gonna sit here and dissect Baldomir's career, because I'm really not all that interested in making a case in favor of him. I just think it's funny that people think Alfonso Gomez is anything more than a moving punching bag.

 

gatti is actually baldomirs "best" win. considering the whupping baldomir put on that club fighter garnered his best purse to date and also propelled him to his career high payday subsequently.
take it for what its worth.

in reality however, gatti blows. he hardly legitimized himself as a welterweight contender by scraping past an ancient damgaard. baldomir beat plenty of welterweights better than gatti.

 

so you are saying you could beat Gomez?? is that what you are saying?

 

No, but I could take Manfredo.::

 

He fought some better. He had a competitive fight with Miguel Angel Rodriquez to become the mandatory, who I'd say was a better welterweight, though while he's tough he's very limited.

Baldomir fought to a draw with another limited fighter in Jose Luis Cruz, in which he they shared knockdowns. From what limited resources I've read of it, it may have been a hometown decision, but it was close and Baldomir didn't look that great in it.

He also had a disqalification win over Clottey in which he was far behind on all the cards despite point deductions.

Those names begin to round out his resume. Not exactly elite stuff there, though more accomplished than some.

 

And I think it's funny that people think Baldomir is anything but a punching bag.

 

Alfonso Gomez = greatest fight to ever live....ever