Would you pick Cotto over PBF?

Cotto has to get by Margarito before anyone starts talking about a Floyd fight. I have serious doubts he will beat Margarito. I think Margarito has the type of style that is going to be hell for Cotto.

I think Margarito stops him actually. and the toughest fight at WW for Floyd is still Margarito. His style is hell for anyone at 147 and if you can't take a punch, you're done. Cotto's getting stopped and Floyd will run from Margarito yet again.

 

Not a chance. Cotto is in another league to margarito. Margarito has a good chin, and decent workrate, and that's it.

That's not enough to beat Cotto. It wasn't even enough to beat Williams, who was recently beaten by a guy that Cotto crushed.

 

Margerito is awesome, I'm a big fan. for some reason though, I can see him giving Cotto trouble, yet I see Floyd Domintating Margeraito

 

Wiliiams was able to weather the storm. Can Cotto? I don't think he can.

 

There was no storm to weather.

When Margarito was up against someone who was game and could fight, and was throwing punches and coming forward, his workrate dropped substantially. Shit, he barely started fighting until the last few rounds at which point it was too late.

Cotto's chin also looks solid at 147, and Marge is not a monster puncher.

Couple that with the fact that Cotto's defense is 10x better than marge's, he is much faster, more more accurate, much more skillful, and more powerful - marge doesn't have much of a chance.

Cotto will be hitting margarito hard and often, we'll see just how much "storm" margarito produces in the face of cotto's brutal assault.

My guess is not much.

 

We will have to wait and see. Margarito did buzz williams a couple of times and Williams also has a far greater workrate than Cotto does. Cotto better hit Margarito hard and often if he expects to keep him off.

 

You've been counting on that in most of Cotto's last fights. When will you admit that Cotto is more durable than you give him credit for? In his last few fights, I think you've picked his opponent based on the Torres and Corley fight in about 80% of them.::

 

Yeah, but Williams is a slapper, Cotto punches for real, and accurately too.

 

Cotto's speed advantage and defence advantage should win him the fight. Margarito is usually a slow starter and by the time he gets going his face might be too busted up for him to see.

 

Who did I pick against Cotto? Find it.

 

On the top of my head, Mosley, Judah, I don't remember if you picked Quintana, Abudullaev (::)... Honestly, I don't keep track of your prediction but I know you always raise the issue of his chin whenever he fights a live body.

 

Mosley I did pick, Judah I did not pick over Cotto.

 

Ok, Yoda.

 

:: Shut up you!

 

I think I'll like Cotto much better after Floyd dominates him

 

You're really in love with your checklsts, but regardless of what you think your checklist shows, I think Cotto's stamina and attrition will be challenged more in this fight than any other in his career and his chin may be, as well....even if Margarito is slower, less accurate, less skillfull and less powerful.:dunno:

It's not like those are the only determining factors in a fight.

 

It's a good concise way of differentiating fighters abilities and chances against each other. It's simple maths and logic and logistics.

And it's not a bad thing either, I am pretty good at picking fights other than the odd fight I pick with my heart.

And you can't really disagree with those observations, because they are true.

Marge rivals Cotto for stamina. Cotto doesn't fade, and he is solid as anything at 147.

Marge has a slightly higher workrate, but against Cotto? Who knows, like I suggested before I think it's highly likely that Marge doesn't quite gut up as well as you think he might against someone as fierce as cotto.

Cotto's fast, sharp, accurate and HEAVY punches are going to make marge think twice about plodding forwards and wailing away with his uppercuts and bodyshots.

The more I think about it, the more I think cotto just does a fucking number on margarito.

Margarito is not even close to being as talented, skilled or complete a fighter as the likes of Mosley.

Cotto KO 1 Marge

 

No, it often excludes the potential for other outcomes that are determined by more than just the selected categories.

Frankly, I don't think the stamina category is close. Margarito is a slow starter, but he gets better over the second half of fights. His punch output against Williams went up the last six rounds.

Cotto took his foot off the gas after going hard against Mosley for half of that fight. He showed he could do it and that was impressive, but he tested wills against Mosley and decided that wasn't the best way to beat him.

Now, I don't think Margarito can go to war with him early simply because I think he'll find Cotto much harder to find...especially if Cotto doesn't want to fight with him like he did Mosley.

But eventually, Margarito will begin to catch up with and the fight will get interesting. Margarito, who was coming off a lengthy layoff and had complained of hurting his own hand against Clottey, still threw 100 punches a round...and stylistically, that's a much better comparison for what Margarito may do against Cotto, than there is for anything Cotto will do against a welterweight the size of Margarito.

Cotto hasn't fought an opponent like Margarito...or anyone that closely resembles him.

There are still questions for the great young Puerto Rican to answer.

 

Margarito is going to give Cotto alot of problems. Thats not going to be a walk. Cotto will take alot of punishment in that fight and it will show us all what Mayweather could take advantage of.


I favor Floyd because he's just a better fighter. He might be SLIGHTLY past his peak, but he hasn't slipped significantly. Cotto is at his peak, but has openings in his defense that Mayweather could take advantage of easily.

 

Cotto is a stud and the best bodypuncher in the sport. Mayweather should win but he better keep the fight in the middle of the ring and not go to the ropes. Cotto won't flail like Oscar and Hatton, he'll tuck his chin and dig in with his superb combinations, he'll obviously get countered some but that won't faze him. The problem for Mayweather is if he can't go to the ropes and rest like in the Castillo fights he might not be able to look very stellar. Cotto also has improved his defense and his jab. He'll be a handfull for Floyd, I hope this fight gets made.

 

the fight isn't gonna happen until maybe dec 08

Floyd will stop Cotto