Who hates Lennox Lewis the most?

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Who hates Lewis the Most

  1. LOK - unabashed Lewis hater, but at least he's honest.

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  2. Esk59 - Tries to pretend he is objective, but he isn't fooling anyone.

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    How admitting you're wrong that being bigger automatically makes you technically less proficient than a smaller fighter.
     
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    Yep, Lewis was a highly effective heavyweight, without a doubt.

    Which made it all the more frustrating that he chose such a horrible, negative, safety first style.
     
  3. Fade To Black

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    I think the point here (well my point at least), is that Lewis did not fight to win, he fought not to lose. I think it's pretty evident in the Rahman fight. It seemed like if Lewis had pushed the action at any time he could have easily stopped Rahman. Instead he fought safe, picked a couple spots here and there, and let Rahman stick around long enough to land that big right.

    I'm not saying you have to KO everybody, but at least make an attempt.
     
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    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    THANK YOU!!!:bears:
     
  5. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Give me your technical analysis of Roy Jones Jr.
     
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    Average basketball player
     
  7. Mitchell Kane

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    But technique-wise, how was he?

    How was his jab compared to Wladimir Klitschko's?
     
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    I'd rather hear it from a guy who's been in the ring instead of armchair analysts who think it all looks so easy.
     
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    Wlad's jab is one of the best out there. RJJ's jab is/was not.
     
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    That's understood, and I'm not saying its easy. But the fact of the matter is that Lennox had the tools to be a much more exciting fighter, and he chose not to.
     
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    Wlad vs Ibragimov. What did you think of Wlad's performance?
     
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    I have no interest in seeing him fight again. Or Sultan for that matter.
     
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    So you're saying his fights with Ruddock, Briggs, V Klitschko, Morrison, Mercer, Golota, Botha, Grant, etc did nothing for you? :dunno: I think the guy was exciting in many fights. A hell of a lot more exciting than B Hops anyway.:lol:
     
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    Sure he had a lot of exciting fights, but he could have had more. He took his foot off the gas pedal in both training and actual fights quite a few times. Of course there are many other fighters who have done this, but most of them did not have the talent of Lewis.

    Bhop is as boring as it gets, but he better win. If not, I'm out some cash.:blobbox:
     
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    Bravo that man. :bears:

    Unfortunately it seems a trait that many fighters have adopted since say, the fab 4 era, the 70's heavyweights and back through boxing history. These days a lot of fighters REALLY do just fight "not to lose".

    Back then, fighters would get in there and just fucking fight. Even guys with the technical ability and physical gifts to stink it out if they wanted to, like Hearns and Hagler - didn't. They would get in there and fight to win.
     
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    Decent technically. Certainly a lot better than the likes of Hamed.

    But essentially he was one of the most athletically gifted fighters in the history of the sport, and was as successful as he was mainly through pure talent.
     
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    He dropped 2 world heavyweight championship belts to avoid fighting John Ruiz and Chris Byrd.

    Some might give him a pass on John Ruiz(I don't) but Chris Byrd won the IBF tournament to establish a legit #1 contender. Chris Byrd won the tournament by beating Tua and then Lewis avoids him by even dropping the IBF title to not fight him.

    Also he managed to never fight Riddicke Bowe, Wlad Klitschko, Tim Whitherspoon, Ike Ibeabuchi, and he avoided the rematch with Ray Mercer and Vitali Klitschko.

    These are facts and cannot be disputed.

    Feel free to come back with a long winded opinion infested post. It won't mean anything but go right ahead.
     
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    Finally, someone who actually follows boxing and knows the facts.
     
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    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    let me add

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    both of which could possibly KO Lemmon the LOSER
     
  20. Mitchell Kane

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    That's a pretty interesting way to look at it, given that from the time he fought Ruddock to the end of his career, he went the distance about six times.

    Of those times, the only opponent who had been stopped previously was Holyfield...who had only been stopped by Bowe in a fight that he appeared gassed pretty early and still almost had Bowe out on his feet.

    Tucker had never been stopped (and never been KD's prior to Lewis), Mercer hadn't, Mavrovic hadn't, and Tua hadn't.
     
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    Danny Williams beat him easier and faster and even Kevin McBride kicked his ass.

    I don't hate those guys at all. Tyson just wasn't that good at the end of his career.

    My criticisms of Lewis are independant of what he did against Tyson.

    Holyfield whooped Tyson's ass in 96 and I don't hate him at all. I am a fan of Holyfield.
     
  22. Mitchell Kane

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    He wasn't obligated to fight him. HBO put a lot of money into it, which was why HBO had it set up for the week after Lewis-Holyfield II and why Lewis was ringside for the fight.

    Lewis-Grant and Lewis-Tua were widely regarded as the biggest fights in the division entering 2000 (outside of Tyson) because they were widely cosidered the two top contenders...and Lewis fought both of them.

    But by all means, criticize it.
     
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    no matter how you wanna spin it

    Ruiz and Byrd were ducked by lemmon and beacasue of it, Lemmon's legacy is tainted

    plus the little fact that he was KNOCKED OUT COLD LIKE A BUM TWICE:lol:
     
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    The same way Tyson's and Bowe's are for ducking Lewis in the 90's?
     
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    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    nope.. he ducked them
     
  26. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    How do you think Lewis wound up with the WBC title two times?

    Do some research.
     
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    What horsehit!
     
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    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    That's why Gallagher was so popular.
     
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    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    lol@ do some research

    lol I think you need to baby..
     
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