Who hates Lennox Lewis the most?

Bowe and Tyson didn't drop WBC titles in order to not defend them against Lewis?

Why do you think the winner of Champion vs. Champion only came away with the WBA belt?

 

Everything you are saying makes complete sense. The only reason someone would not understand your point is if they don't like it and don't want to.

What you say is true, Lewis was a big 6'-5" muscular giant of a man with one punch KO power in his right hand but constantly ran scared away from much smaller opponents.

It was pitiful to watch and it certainly hurt his popularity. You made a very good point.

And your Pacquiao vs Mosley analogy was spot on. Of course Mosley would be crucified if he were to fight scared running from Pacquiao such as Lewis did against many smaller fighters.

Very intelligent points you made here. It is sad that these guys refuse to even understand it.

I know how ignorant some people are. In another thread I asked a straight forward question and the guy was unable to respond to it even after 3 tries.

 

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Bowe dropped it due to WBC trying to shaft him where he could get more money for other fights.. not to AVOID Lemmon::

Same with Mike. it was to take other figths. But Lemmon did duck mike for years only fighting him once Mike was obviously not mentally well

 

George Foreman said on the telecast that he thought Holyfield deserved to win the second fight but he didn't think he was getting the decision because of the first fight.

A lot of people thought Holyfield won the second fight. I think it was very close and a drawish type of fight.

It is not a crime to give it to either guy.

 

I disagree with that. When Tyson was champ everyone in the country and even the world knew who he was.

When Lewis was champion NO ONE knew who he was. In any country you go to, no one knew who the champion was.

Also Tyson made a lot more money than Lewis.

 

It's interesting, the "super heavyweight" that fought the most like the way you'd want - Riddick Bowe - did so in part because he was technically far below Lewis and Klitschko, especially when it came to fighting at a distance.

His jab and right hand weren't on par with Lewis', which is in part why he was dominated as badly by Andrew Golota before he went south in their pair of fights.

Lewis understood a simple concept, he didn't have the hand speed or reaction time of a smaller fighter, so what point is there to stand on the inside with him, when he could use his legs to create distance for his jab and right hand.

It's why Lewis could last until his late 30's and still be heavyweight champion and why he still has all his faculties...and why his record is as great as it is and why he beat every heavyweight he fought as a pro.

 

:bears: Preach it LOK! ::

 

:bears:

 

Bowe stood to make around $15 million, or more, aginst Lennox Lewis.

How much did he make against Dokes and Ferguson?

 

It actually wasn't.

 

I gave it to Mercer....crap wrong fight

 

That was a very close fight. I had it to Lewis by 2 points.

 

Bowe is lucky.. Rock really took care of him and he is WELL OFF even now

by the time Bowe fought Golota he was shot completly though..

IMO Bowe had EVERYTHING better than Lemmon, everything better except he was lazier

Jab, right, inside fighting..

 

now that these three wise men have found each other, Jesus will probably be born somewhere. Hopefully away from Tyson though so he won't be eaten

 

Mercer won for sure but they shafted the old man and gave it to Little Lemmon loser

 

Trying to figure out if this even makes sense...hold on...

 

:laughing:

I love this place::

 

All false.

Grant was a joke and anyone who says otherwise is ridiculous. Golota knocked his ass through the ropes the fight right before. I don't even want to discuss this bum anymore, it's insulting.

Tua was not the #1 contender. Ike Ibeabuchi was the #1 contender but he had legal problems. So what happened is since Ibeabuchi had legal problems and everyone found out that Grant was an HBO hype job BUM, then they took the next available guy which was Tua.

But Tua had sat on his #1 status for 2 years and went on a diet to weigh 254 lbs IN THE RING against Lewis. That is after his 8 week training camp and all the hard training he made it down to 254 lbs.

5'-9" David Tua weighed more than 6'-5" Lennox Lewis, LMFAO!!!

Even coming that ridiculously out of shape, Lewis ran for his life from him. The fight went the full 12 rounds and was THE MOST BORING HEAVYWEIGHT FIGHT OF ALL TIME!!!

Are these the 2 significant fights you speak of?

 

Interesting that Ibeabuchi actually turned down an offer to fight Grant...and so did Briggs.

During his waiting period, Tua also declined to fight Grant.

 

Tua came out like a house on fire and it only took 1 Lewis shot to put Tua into a shell who didn't wanna play no more with the big bad Brit.:laughing:

 

According to Cokes, Ike Ibeabuchi was getting handled in sparring by Kirk Johnson.::

 

If Lewis was really as good as you make him out to be then he would be referred to as the greatest.

There would be no arguments about him. He beat everyone he fought. Tyson ran from him. Bowe ran from him.

He knocked everyone out. He had so much skill. He lost but those were accidents and then he avenged those losses.

But NO ONE, NO ONE calls him the greatest.

Because the truth is he never tested himself against the best. He picked and chose his competition and avoided fighting certain guys.

He was good and a deserving champion but he is rated much lower than the true greats that actually took on all comers with no arguments.

Lewis found ways to not box so many guys it's funny that even his most diehard fans usually talk about excuses instead of performances.

 

dsimon writes:

It won't mean anything to you because you are obviously a dunce.

Vlad would have been killed by Lewis he was getting beat left and right. I doubt he would have consumated a fight with Lewis... Vlad is smart after all. Klitschko jiunior was not ready for Lewis at the time.

Lewis fought Mercer and Vitali. Lewis was very actie during his reign so he didn't have time to fight every contender. Witherspoon is one of my favorite fighters by the way but I doubt he would have been a threat to Lewis. At any rate they were just strong contenders.

You have to be kidding about Byrd and Ruiz.:: :doh: Lewis was absolutely right not to waste his time with such rubbish.

I am just curious.... being that you think Lewis ducked people could you give me one example of a champ who fought more commers than Lewis did?

 

Why do you say such dumb things man? Who cares about what Cokes says about sparring?

Ibeabuchi stood toe to toe with a prime Tua for 12 rounds of record breaking slugfest.

Kirk Johnson would be DEAD if he did that for even a fraction of the time against either Ibeabuch or Tua.

Ibeabuchi KTFO Byrd who would always have beaten Johnson even today, or when they were kids.

Funny thing about Kirk Johnson is that Ruiz whooped his ass yet Lewis was scheduled to fight Johnson before Johnson got hurt.

Wonder why Lewis never signed to fight the guy who beat him instead.

hmmm... :dunno:

 

dsimon writes:

You are a joke.:laughing: Thats funny I am sorry Esque I was taking you seriously there for a moment my bad. Thats funny! Lets see Lewis ducked Johnson and IBechu and agreed to fight that scrub Vitali. Vitli who had more cred than both those guys put together. And Lewis was not even in shape because he was preparing for that feather fisted scrub Kirk Johnson... yet he still agreed to fight Vitali.

Thats down roght stupid of Lewis and is the opposite of ducking anyone, you do realize that don't you? and you are joking right? :doh: :dunno:

 

Don't know the exact number but probably less. But those were easy fights. Virtually no risk and a lot of money.

If he was going to take a risk against Lewis or Holyfield, he would certainly take the one which offered more money.

You have to be crazy to fight for less money. No one would do that.

 

It's an interesting case with Witherspoon. He was in shape and had some good result and built some momentum with is wins over Cole and Gonzalez, and even agaisnt Mercer - a fight many people thought he won - but then he started putting weight back on and came up with a horrible effort against Donald - a bad styles match-up for him - and that was about it.

 

Ibeabuchi didn't turn anything down. The guy was not even a star yet. He absolutely could not pick and choose his opponents. Hell, he couldn't even make bail when he was arrested.

Lewis on the other hand CHOSE not to fight Bowe, Ruiz and Byrd. Those are facts.

 

A 254 lb house on fire? And when he didn't want to play anymore, why did he last the full 12 rounds?

 

really..

on top of that Byrd who Lemmon Ducked utterly DOMINATED Tua and could have stopped him! he had him HURT with body shots..

but Lemmon was too chicken to fight byrd