This forum is slipping a bit, no one....

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  1. esk59

    esk59 WBC Champion

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    even mentions the best heavyweight on the planet right now.

    I understand the heavyweight division is rather weak at the moment. But this just leaves it wide open for a new young talent to make a name for himself by cleaning it up.

    A lot of threads about Calzaghe and Hopkins, Cotto and Margarito but nothing about the new star in the heavyweight division.

    What is the matter with you guys? Do you even watch heavyweight boxing anymore or are you just into the little guys?

    I want to know why no one mentions David Haye. This guy is on the verge of steam rolling through the heavyweight divison and not a peep has been heard about it here.

    I OBJECT!
     
  2. REEDsART

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    The Problem is, U've Made your Return to Fightbeat Well AFTER the Haye-Macaroni Bout...

    There were PLENTY Of Threads Regarding that Particular Fight AND David Haye's Chances @ Heavyweight...



    REED:cool:
     
  3. Fade To Black

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    I like Haye, and with the state of the division I think he might fair pretty well at HW. Peter is somewhat exciting, but as far as the rest you can keep em.
     
  4. Explosivo

    Explosivo Undisputed Champion

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    There have been threads on Haye here esk. And I am hopeful for him as well as you are.

    But I think we are jumping the gun a bit here. Wait and see how Haye handles a legitimate, experienced big heavyweight and let us go from there.

    He has the tools....but he is still a major question mark for the heavyweight divisiion. I mean hell...look at JC Gomez, and he was a more dominant Cruiserwegiht than Haye has been.
     
  5. esk59

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    Peter is the one guy I think Haye should stay away from for the moment at least.
     
  6. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Haye will get his china chin cracked at HW. Sure he can punch and he's young and exciting to watch, but his chin is supect for sure. You have to be able to take a punch to have success at HW. Everyone is big and they all hit hard.
     
  7. Fade To Black

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    Yeah, I hope he takes a couple of lower level guys on at first. Give him some time to get used to the weight.
     
  8. esk59

    esk59 WBC Champion

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    Gomez was good but how good of a boxer can you remain when you're a fall down drunk who likes to snort cocaine and parties his life away?
     
  9. Fade To Black

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    Either way, he'll be exciting to watch.
     
  10. esk59

    esk59 WBC Champion

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    I agree. You have to have a solid chin like Lennox Lewis or Wlad Klitschko to be successful at heavyweight.
     
  11. Explosivo

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    Well,...he was verry dominant at Cruiserweight, but that didn't translate to success at the heavyweight division...for whatever reason.

    I agree with you...Haye has the tools to hit the subpar heavyweight division like a lightening bolt.
    But his chin is questionable....and his awesome power might not be the force at heavyweight that it is at Cruiserweight.

    Just saying that it is too early to call the guy a sure hit at heavyweight, regardless of the shitty state of the division.
     
  12. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Exactly. I'll watch him fight no doubt. I sure hope he isn't serious about getting in the ring with Wlad any time soon though. He should definitely take on a B level guy before jumping into the deep end.
     
  13. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I forgot when LL or Wlad got KO'd by Carl Thompson.

    Wlad and LL got KO'd by big punchers, not Carl Thompson.
     
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    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    Haye's chin isn't questionable it sucks.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    another thread by another newbie who thinks that exciting is the same as succesful
     
  16. Fade To Black

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    Haye isn't successful?
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    So far in the heavyweight division, no. Beating Tomas Bonin does not quite do it.

    He is clearly the best cruiser right now and very fun to watch, but that is whole different thing
     
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    Ok, I misunderstood. He is a long ways away from proving himself at HW.
     
  19. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    He would clearly be the best Cruiser if he had beat Steve Cunningham before leaving the division.
     
  20. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    I hope Haye dominates all!! he looks like he might be able to.. but we'll see..

    does anyone know much about this other cat that Floyd SR is training now? I think he's samoan?
     
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    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    What's with the annointing of fighters before they even have one fight in the division?

    Just a few threads up or down is the Chris Byrd will rule light heavy thread.
     
  22. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I saw something about that guy. The new Tua? :lol: Let's hope not. The guy looks huge though.
     
  23. Neil

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    haye is a decent cruiser but I doubt that soft beard of his could have withstood hard hittin henrys assault had they met at the 200lb limit.
     
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    david deron haye will discombobulate the division
     
  25. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    You've been away for a while. Perhaps you missed the guy in my sig???
     
  26. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    MTF.. I love your sig:lol:
     
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    If you were odds making, what prices would you have if Haye had fought Cunningham?

    Come on Z, you know as well as I do that Haye would murder Mr. 'USS Spoiler'...
     
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    Brother LOK- this is one of the few Euro's we agree on.

    When Haye ICES the next HW he fights, I'll be starting the bandwagon. I trust you will be in? :dunno:
     
  29. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    I am IN baby!!

    and honestly.. that fight in your sig is one of the reasons I'm againest Joe C and father team, his comments on that fight rank up there with the all time ridiculous things ever said in boxing:lol:
     
  30. meetthefeebles

    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    Make no mistake about it- Enzo Calzaghe is a BUM.

    Honestly, if you'd given Joe a proper trainer, he'd be miles better than he is now. And no mistake.

    Make no bones about it. I am a HUGE Haye fan. Bonin lasted 2.30 mins. Once I see Haye ready for HW action, I'll be starting the official 'Fightbeat' Bandwagon. Those who miss out, frankly, miss out BIG time...

    WAR HAYE :slap:
     

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