The most overhyped unproven fighters need to be knocked out I'm afraid, Miranda was one, Andy Lee was another,... and now we have David Haye, the apparent undisputed heavyweight champion in advance,.. I remember the brits busting a nut when he first turned pro, "nobody stands a chance!", "this guy is so so awesome!", and along comes little Carl Thompson. Be ready for some De Ja Vu if he steps it up at heavyweight.
That has nothing got to do with the state of this forum, the HW's are a complete joke, the majority are fat messes that don't even train, did you watch Wlad's last fight? Watching paint dry is more exciting. As for Haye he is good and I look forward to see how he does at HW. You say he's on the verge of steam rolling the division he could also be on the verge of getting KO big style. What happened to Enzo could easily have happened to Haye. He is exciting but open to be caught out at HW.
:bears: great post you are right, he could steam roll or he might just get steam rolled! we do not know if he can hang yet or not.. offensivly he looks pretty good but he could have a glass jaw:dunno:
David Haye has actually been crowned a champ. Comparing him to the likes of Miranda and especially Lee just doesn't fit.
Indeed we will have to wait and see, one thing for sure is he will bring back some much needed excitment to the division. It's kinda known that Haye's chin is not the best.
It does actually cs um, Miranda knocked out a scrub or two, and the messageboard claimed if Kessler or any other top gun at supermiddleweight wants to prove themselves as the best, they gotta go through him. Too much reward brewed on sensationalism (usually from the sight of handspeed, power, or both), David Haye's been knighted the same, more or less,.. "He will DESTROY the entire heavyweight division" ....because he put down Macancrelilliluo(sp?)... there's nothing else that needs to be said about that really :nono: .
The point is that Haye is a much better fighter than Miranda and some Irish bum. Comparing them is like comparing ODLH to JCC Jr. because they are both mexican.
Im talking about undeserved sensationalism, he may be better than Miranda and Andy Lee,.. but on what evidence does he annihilate the heavyweight division??.. Against a certain kind of soft opponent, anyone can look like a monster, especially an opponent at cruiserweight, Haye strikes me as a "bully" fighter, survive the early storm, and you've got him, against fully fledged heavyweight there will be plenty of fighters who'll be surviving early.
cause he's a grappling stink-bomb ever since Sanders did him in and he joined up with Steward. He's boring az hell to watch and the only reason i watch his fights is for the possibility to see him get KTFO.
Um, he also knocked out the unified CW champ Mormeck, thats the real claim to fame, not his blowout of Enzo. He's a legit champion at CW regardless of hyperbole concerning his HW prospects
Exactly. He's a good Cruiserweight, and in no way does that mean he's going to have the same success at HW.
Try telling that to Mormeck, who KD Haye in the 4th and then got stretched in the seventh. Right about the time that Haye was supposed to be getting tired...
Actually, he's an excellent cruiser-weight, but you are right. There is no guarantee that he succeeds at HW. Much of the 'hype' (if you can really call it that) probably stems from the hope, more than anything else, that he can liven up the undoubted worst division in boxing and possibly the worst set of HW's in history. In any decent time for the supposed 'glamour division', nobody would be talking about him other than noting that the best CW in the world has chosen to follow Holy and fight at HW. If nothing else, and even if he gets ICED, at least he'll go down punching. You're unlikely to see any of this 'power parrying' of jabs or 'three right hands thrown in 12 rounds'...:shit:
Yes fine, he is a legit cruiserweight champ, but less we forget that O'neil Bell knocked Mormeck out too, and was apparently hard done by in the rematch, so that doesn't seem to be much of a reference for annointing Haye the undisputed heavyweight champion in advance either.