More money than meets the eye in the UFC - MMA - Yahoo! Sports

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Stole this from Sherdog.....I always wondered what the undercard fighters made in boxing.

 

Thats a bit misleading. lets be honest, the undercard of Calzaghe was so bad they didn't show ANY of it. it was a bumfest, of course those guys aren't going to make shit.

 

Good article, which I'll post here....

I've asked numerous times about the boxing undercard paydays, and finally I get an answer. And it's what I thought, too.

Too all these fighters leaving the UFC over money, I'm not sure where they think they're gonna go to find more money. Sure, Sylvia might make 800K with Affliction, but will Affliction be around 6 months after?

Bodog is done. IFL is as good as done. Pride is a memory. There's just isn't a greener pasture on the other side of UFC's fence.


TFK

 

Yes great idea to compare bumfights that generate zero revenue to the UFC. Fucking brilliant.

 

Iole did a shit job for this article.
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The first factor that should be looked at is how much money the event brought in and how much money it paid out. This is going to be the smoking gun in determining if the fighters are getting fucked or not. From here you start justifying why.

What Iole did was just jump in and cherry pick stuff to make it look like boxing and UFC are similar in how they treat their fighters. In some ways they are, but in many important ways they are not and writing some bullshit article that ignores the differences to make a bullshit point = disingenous author.

 

Well said

 

My favourite part of the article is TFK saying it's good. That rightaway tells me there will be alot of UFC dickriding in the article.

 

It's common knowledge, it boxing circles at least, that Iole is a complete hack.

 

yeah, and then he should have also pointed out operating costs...These shows dont just magically happen....There are plenty more people on the Zuffas payroll than just the fighters... Compare the payouts now to those from two years ago and its CLEAR the UFC has started paying better and will surely continue to do so....

 

The bonuses are a little bigger for sure.

 

I think Iole likes balls in his mouth

 

He compared bum fights in boxing to bum fights in the UFC. It's not as if they compared Chuck Liddell's salary to some undercard boxer.

Do you tune in to watch boxing PPV's for the bum fights on the undercard?

 

Apples to oranges.

You can't limit it to big HBO cards or pay per views, because boxing cards (including ppv's) are usually sold on one fight most of the time, whereas the UFC's cards are usually promoted/sold on 3-4 fights...sometimes without a real main event.

 

Very poor comparaison as their is no bum fights in the UFC, bums fight in other smaller org untill they hit big "time" or are deemed to have potential ( of course their is some exception ). All in all, a terrible article from Iole, no wonder as he is known to be buddy with White and is pretty much a pr ( or more appropriately, a hack ) passing himself as a journalist. You've got to be an UFC chill to like this piece of crap he called an article.

 

I can't say I've read anything other than this from Iole on MMA, but seeing as he's a boxing guy I doubt he knows much if anything other than what he sees in press releases about the sport.

 

If you pay attention to the article the fights he is talking about weren't even on TV. Calzaghe-Hopkins undercard was trash and not 1 of those fights was on TV. Wanna bet that most of those lowly paid fighters on the Pac-JMM undercard were also not on TV? :dunno:

 

Exactly.

Mir is still one of the bigger names in the UFC (he's going to be a coach on the next TUF) and he only got $40,000 w/ a $40,000 bonus against Lesnar...which was a pretty big fight.

Mir's equivalent in boxing would be earning far more than that.

And the other thing is, Iole blatantly uses sponsorship deals to try and make the numbers closer.

I love the mention of the Hummer...brings back memories of The Great White Hype.::

It's very a disingenuous article...embarrassing, really.

 

Mir wasn't brought in to win against Lesnar

 

Randy Couture recently said that Floyd Mayweather made more money last year then all UFC fighters combined ::

 

He did.

 

Which tells you that Floyd Mayweather is ridiculously overpaid.


TFK

 

Dana White is overpaid.

 

Yeah, the guy who took MMA from it's death bed and made it mainstream, he's overpaid.


TFK

 

We don't pay to see him fight.

 

Floyd Mayweather is paid on what the market will bear or allow. UFC fighters are paid what Dana White will allow. There is no market value yet in UFC, but it still is a young sport. I know all of the UFC cronies want all the other organizations to fail, and many will. But to their's and Dana White's dismay, other's will keep coming up. There are too many great fighters in the world for Dana White to think he can underpay and sell to us that the fighters outside the UFC aren't any good.

 

Thats great. You told me a story i already know. Anyways i think you can thank the Ferrita brothers even more because they put the money up to buy the UFC.

So again ill ask the question since your answer was just a verbal blowjob to the UFC.

Mayweather is overpaid yet Dana White isn't. Can you explain that to me TFK?

 

I don't know about who is under or over paid, but I do like Dana's bonus system. To reward fighters for KO of the night or fight of the night is a fantastic idea. Boxing could use that.

The simple truth is this, if you don't like what Dana is paying you, go fight somewhere else or get another job.

 

No it tells you that the promoters pay and the networks pay him a cut of the money he drew.

Mayweather did huge PPV numbers so he deserved to be paid for doing the huge PPV numbers.

 

I don't get this at all. Mayweather is overpaid yet Dana White isn't. Can you explain that to me TFK.

 

Wrong.

If UFC were a monpoly, then there would be no market, but there are several other organizations out there in America and the world. Fighters are paid what the MMA market currently dictates, and the UFC is among the highest paying, if not the highest paying group out there.

And Floyd is an aberation. Don't think because Floyd makes $20+ million a fight that all boxers are paid well, because that's just not the case. I'd guess that less then 1% of the boxers are making more then 99% of the total money.

TFK