Nate Campbell-Juan Marquez

I'm not talking shit you are. You were crying about JMM to have a big fight so he can fight Pacquiao again.

now your pissed because he if fights Campbell it will be a meaningful fight. Unlike the $50 sparring session that only you and Bob Arum will consider meaningful between manny and Diaz.

as far as silly quotes:

"Bautista will stop that slow plodder Deleon" :laughing:

 

nobody is acting like it's a gimme. most people are happy of a potential meaningful fight. Unlike Manny and Diaz which is nothing more than a beating for Diaz

 

sure it's debatable but you can debate on any division if you want.

fact is Juan Diaz was considered the man because he won 3 belts in the division. Making two of the champions quit. You can nit pick all you want but he did more in those fights than any other fighter that wants to claim he is the man at 135

When Casamayor got that gift from Santa Cruz even the ring magazine supporters admitted Juan Diaz was clearly the man at 135

Campbell beats Diaz and now his status is questionable?:dunno:

 

Actually your fact is an awefull lot like an opinion. Like i said if you want to say Casamayor wasn;t the champion based on his fight with Santa Cruz then Santa Cruz was. Under what flawed thinking does that title go to someone else? Either way Diaz wasn't the undisputed champion when he lost. Period.

 

so marquez took a fight inwhich he's likely the underdog, meanwhile pacquaio is facing the most vulnerable lightweight belt holder, yet you're criticizing the marquez fight. go figure.

 

:dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:

 

Nate is numero uno at 135 right now.

 

Problem is if JMM beats Nate, Manny will probably consider him as being too dangerous.

 

I don't care if Fagquez takes challenges, when did I ever say that? :dunno:

But the fact is he doesn't deserve a shot. I think they are bringing him to go in there and lay down. I wouldn't be surprised if Marquez gets KO'd.

 

What did Manny do at 135 again to get a shot at David Diaz?

 

Manny is a bonified superstar who is one of the best known fighters in the world, the best of his country, and Top 3 P4P. He has over $20,000,000 in sponsored advertising revenue by companies such as Nike, San Miguel Beer, and ABS-CBN. David Diaz would suck YOUR DICK to get Manny into the ring.

Fagquez fought for a $30,000 pay check just 3 years ago, he's not even the most famous fighter in his division in his OWN country. :laughing:

Giving Fagquez a title shot after a loss would be like giving Enzo Macanarelli a title shot a Wlad.

 

I didn't realize Marquez got blown out in 2 rounds:dunno: Horrible Comparison.

There have been way worse title CHALLENGERS than Marquez. Since this is an optional defense of the title, the champion has the right to choose the opponent. Why wouldn't the champ go for the biggest possible payday at the time?

 

He can pick any ranked opponent. Marquez isn't ranked. Yet.

 

:::: so because Manny is a "Superstar" he is allow to get title shots he doesn't deserve..in a division he hasn't done shit in...:dunno:

I'm sure the other much better Diaz..Juan would have fought the "Superstar" Manny Pacquiao...but i guess Pac had to have an easy tune up first.....

 

Haven't you heard of the Oscar De La Hoya rule?:dunno:

 

And how many wins did Trinidad have @ 154 or 160 before he got his title shots? I guess David Reid and WIlliam Joppy were the 'real' guys there, huh?

 

werd....

the rule doesn't piss me off.....the De La Hoya rule..get immediate title shots in a division you haven't done shit in...-WHICH I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM with that much...unless there is someone in that division who deserve/will make a better opponent...

piss me off..the Jones jr/Mayweather rule...why fight them if i know i can beat them......now that one sucks ass...at least DLH fought everyone at Welterweight...even if he got a few questionable decisions....

 

Marquez is top 5 lb for lb. Hes a at least a star not on the level of Manny but hes a star.

I guess your theory allows you to hate Marquez and blow Manny even if it contradicts yourself in a major way.

 

when Marquez was trying to land the third fight with Pacquio which everyone wants to see except for you and Arum, you said Marquez needed to earn it by fighting a big fight.

now you don't want him to fight this big fight. ::

you know everyone knows fighting Campbell is like night and day in comparison to fighting David Diaz who is nothing but a bum. ::

 

I already said I don't care if Fagquez gets this fight, but he clearly doesn't deserve it. I honestly think they are bringing in Fagquez to lay down. Golden Boy knows Fagquez has never been a profitable fighter, and he's almost 35 years old. They're trying to get one payday off of him, and then sending him into the sunset.

Campbell should be fighting much more deserving fighters, such as Casamayor.

 

JMM don't deserve it?:laughing:

you really are stupid. there is no other way to describe you. You don't even try to sound logical.

Hell alot of people had him winning against pacquiao in a fight of the year candidate. You act as if Marquez is coming of a KO loss or has a losing streak.

as far as Casamayor he has never seem interested in a Cambpell rematch. Neither has pacquiao or Arum. So it's not about who deserves what. I'ts about who steps up and fight.

Arum is happy to put Pacquiao with the esaiest champion he happens to promote in David Diaz. After that the plan is to put him with Hatton who is coming of an embarrassing ass whipping and is also huge draw. That is the reason for that fight to happen. No plans on proving he is the best at 135 after he takes that belt from Diaz.

I hear Casamayor might fight Juan Diaz who is coming off an ass whipping.

Marquez has been a better fighter than all those guys mentioned and has won more tittles.

again, to say he doesn't deserve a shot at Campbell is fucking stupid.

I bet even if JMM beats Campbell you'll make up some other bullshit to take credit away from him.::

 

Fagquez is coming off a loss. Casamayor is coming off a KO victory over a top lightweight.

The only thing Fagquez deserves is to have his legs up in the air again, this time against Campbell. :laughing:

 

the funny thing is Manny never sold as many ppv sales until this last rematch with JMM

sure Manny is a big star but has been for years. He fought Barrera a few months before Marquez. Barrera is supposed to be way bigger than JMM and yet didn't even sell as many.

Manny fought Barrera in November and JMM in March. Did Manny become twices as big in between those months? ::

the fact is the fight sold as much because everyone has wanted to see this rematch and knew that JMM has given Manny the most problems. which is also why people wanna see the third one.

except for Arum and the pinoys who only wanna see manny in a $50 sparring session. :laughing:

 

old man marquez schooled your boy again.

this was supposed to be an older marquez against a new and improve pacquiao remember? with Ray Leonard skills ::

aside from the knockdown JMM still made your boy look like an amateur. which is why Arum is running for the hills. ::

 

no

 

Lots of people on here are drinking the Campbell Koolaid. JMM in a pretty easy decision.

 

Check the scoring of the ringside media, then comeback and apologise.

 

ringside media are now "most" people.:laughing:

 

Fine go check the threads from various different forums. We all know that superstar Manny has most fans so you can't say people are being biased.

If Manny won so convingcingly then 90% of press row wouldn't score the fight for JMM.

 

Who said Manny won convincingly? I scored the fight for JMM, but I would say the opinion on who won the fight is 50/50. And anyone with an open mind can see how the fight could be scored for the other. Sounds to me like someone is a little bitter.