Paul Williams: Does he have a shot at beating Quintana?

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by royyjonesjrp4pno1, May 8, 2008.

  1. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    First off kudos for Williams for getting right back in there with Quintana.

    Quintana finally signed the contract and this fight is a go. June 7 on Showtime.

    Can Williams fight a smarter/better fight this time?

    Or is Quintana just a bad match up for him that would beat him everytime?
     
  2. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black Leap-Amateur

    wtf
     
  3. Nobleart

    Nobleart Narwhal King

    Yes, I know Williams isn't the quickest guy around but he looked like he was slogging around in mud vs. Quintana. I think he will make a couple of adjustments to slow Quintana down a bit.
     
  4. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Quintana's a BAD Matchup for Williams...His COUNTERPUNCHING, HANDSPEED, FLUIDITY & ATHLETICISM will Always Present Problems for Williams...

    Williams CAN Win, but he's Got to JAB More & Basically OCCUPY Quintana w/Activity...

    N the Last Fight, Quintana's Counterpunching SEVERELY Affected Williams' Punchrate...So If Williams ACCEPTS that he's GOING to Get Hit & Focuses on OUTLANDING Quintana, he Can Take a Close Decision...

    Personally, REED Thinks Quintana would Win 7 Out of 10 Times...

    REED:cool:
     
  5. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black Leap-Amateur

    I'm not a fan of Paul's, but I think you all have your finger on the panic button here. Quintana is a bad matchup for Williams', but Paul is still the better fighter. Quintana was a last minute replacement the first time they fought, and I truly think Paul was looking past him. Also, he had a horrible time making weight. The more difficult it is to make 147 is directly proportional to how difficult the fight will be for him.
     
  6. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    dsimon writes:

    A couple of things to be aware of:

    1) Quintanna is a lot better then people think. When he lost to Cotto he sort of got put on a different list but his fight before Cotto he outboxed a real strong boxer and his fundamentals are solid.

    2) Williams is not as polished.... not as "along" as Quintanna. Williams needs work on the fundamentals a bit more. People are sold on this kid's approach, but they are negelecting to look at his strength, his technical polish and other things tht have not been neglected with Quintarra.

    I think Williams could do a better job if he is capable at refining his skills. He still has the physical gifts to beat Quintanna but he needs to get stronger physically, shorten and put more weight behind his punches, and counter punch better. He needs to forget the 1,000 punches per a round approach and make his punches count. Get more leverage on his shots... Watch Tommy Hearns to learn how to punch like a stringbean from hell.:lol:
     
  7. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Better fighter? He got schooled no matter what excuse you use.:doh:
     
  8. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black Leap-Amateur

    Agreed. But I still like Paul in the rematch. Sig/av?
     
  9. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Deal. Two weeks? A month?
     
  10. Baron

    Baron "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Yes he has a chance. If he can really use his physical advantage, he could keep Quintana at bay but I seriously doubt it. Williams doesn't fight as tall as he could and his jab isn't all that. I think the most likely outcome is another decision loss. If what Fade To Black said is true, then he might surprise me.
     
  11. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black Leap-Amateur

    Lets say sig/av..two weeks
     
  12. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Okay.
     
  13. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Williams has ZERO SHOT in beating Quintana. I think Carlos is going to stop Williams in the rematch! Here is the latest news from Quintana's camp!


    This is the third week in Quintana's training camps for the Williams fight. Quintana agreed to accept $400,000 for this fight against Williams.

    "We are in the hardest part of training, working on his phisical condition. In the first fight we had an amazing condition and this time we want to improve on that" BONILLA

    "Our goal is to get rid of this guy (Williams) and make him not to even want to look at Puerto Rico again." BONILLA

    "Fights are won in the gym and the great thing is that Quintana is a very dedicated fighter who trains hard. We have brought in the same sparring partners for the last fight and we are confident we will be victorious" BONILLA



    WAR QUINTANA!!!


    Full Story here http://www.vocero.com/noticias.asp?s=Deportes&n=112275


     
  14. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black Leap-Amateur

    Who would have thought Quintana's training camp would have positive things to say about Quintana?! Amazing!
     
  15. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    No Way Quintana STOPS Williams...REED Doesn't Think ANY Welter would STOP Williams...


    REED:nono:
     
  16. Nobleart

    Nobleart Narwhal King


    How ridiculous would it sound if this same release came out of Paul Williams camp and you changed the word Puerto Rico to Georgia. :nono:
     
  17. Nobleart

    Nobleart Narwhal King


    :lol:


    Yeah, it's good to see Quintana is actually "training" for this fight. I know he'll win now because Williams is known for being such a slouch in his own training camps. :rolleyes:
     
  18. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Quintana has the Roy Jones quality of not even trying to end a fight.

    Williams would welcome Quintana trying to knock him out. He would have to stand more flat footed and give Williams a better chance of getting off a high punch output.
     
  19. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Let me tell you something right now! Let's get 1 things straight! The only reason Williams even won 1 round was because Quintana got tired down the stretch! The style match up here is all wrong for the exposed Williams!
     
  20. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I will be willing to sig bet anyone here! I'm so confident in a Quintana win that I'm willing to make the sig-bet for 1 year! LOSER IS BANNED FOR 1 YEAR! WHATEVER!!!


    BRING IT ON BITCHES!!! LETS SEE IF ANYONE STEPS TO THE PLATE!!!!!!
     
  21. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Pretty Much EVERYBODY has Said as Much...


    REED:dunno:
     
  22. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Calm Down, Dog:lol: ...

    REED Can Think of ONE Poster on this Thread who Said Williams would Win...REED is DISagreeing w/YOUR Notion that Quintana will STOP Williams...



    REED:cool:
     
  23. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black Leap-Amateur

    Not enough posters on these boards to go banning people, but I will take the year sig/av bet. I've already made a bet with Joe King so if you win I will take your sig/av after two weeks with Joe King's. Deal?
     
  24. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ


    :bears: :bears: :bears:

    I'm picking Quintana also.
     
  25. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx WBC Champion

    Wow. Quintana is making the same amount of cash to fight Williams that Forbes made to fight De La Hoya. Who would have thought.

    I don't know why, I pictured you saying this in a Charlie Zelenoff-esque manner.

    "Wassup bitchesss???"

    :lol:
     
  26. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    :lol:

    Don't tempt me! I will make a video and post it on you-tube!
     
  27. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Done!
     
  28. The Cuban Hawk

    The Cuban Hawk WBC Champion

    LOL at the title of this thread.

    I think I'm getting a feeling of deja vu... :lol:
     
  29. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Wow. So your sig is booked from June 7, 2008 to June 21, 2009:eeeek: :eeeek: :eeeek:
     
  30. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Thats the plan. Williams has more upside then Quintana does.
     

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