IF Floyd dominates Oscar....

Oscar wasn't a good challenge for Felix Sturm, who handled him easily.

Muhammad Ali never quit. Duran did.

Did you miss his fight with Felix Sturm? Javier Castillejo did better - in the rematch!

So, De la Hoya beats Spinks three years after losing to Sturm, who's really just a shitty version of Cory Spinks?!?!?

Being a good boxer isn't just about what skills you have, or else Kevin Howard would be the #1 boxer of all time. Duran QUIT when he wasn't even hurt. He wasn't mentally prepared? Fuck him for being a douchebag, then. The ability to be mentally prepared separates the greats from the all-time greats.

You are gay. Ever hear of Sonny Liston? Joe Frazier? Floyd Patterson? Jimmy Ellis? Jerry Quarry? Oscar Bonavena? Cleveland Williams? Ernie Terrel? Ron Lyle? Earnie Shavers? Zora Folley? George Chuvalo? Bob Foster? Ken Norton? Every single one of them - except Williams who'd been shot and Folley who was old - was better than anyone that Duran beat outside of DeJesus (who beat him, and was dying of AIDS) and Leonard (who made him quit).

Prime-against-prime, Sugar Ray Leonard "smoked" Roberto Duran and made him quit. Ali-Frazier I was a two-round fight.

Jake, I've heard people argue that Duran wasn't in his prime for the first Leonard match, but I've never bought it. Duran's peak was from DeJesus III to Leonard II.

 

how in the hell is Sturm a shitty version of Spinks? Sturm is like six feet tall, and a middle-weight! Spinks is like, 5'9" and a welter-weight. And they don't fight like each other at all. And don't think because Taylor is fighting Spinks, that SPinks is a middle-weight. On the contrary, the fact that Taylor IS fighting him is virtually evidence that he's NOT a middle-weight.

 

:nono: Well people squeal about Fraud's status as a 'multi division title holder' ..so basically Taylor's clearing out welterweight and junior-middleweight first, he already cleared out middleweight, and ofcourse his son beat the Lightheavyweight champion so that trumps supermiddleweight aswell. 5 Divisions undisputed baby.

 

Can I ask a quick question about Roberto Duran. WHy is it that when people say Duran lost to Benetiz, Hagler, Hearns, and Leonard 2xs they say well he shouldn't be judged on those fights and that he wasn't at his prime weight and he was old. But then in the very next sentence those same exact people will bring up the Iran Barkley victory and add that to his legacy. I find that when people talk about his career they only want to talk about his lightweight reign and nothing else but then claim that he is this great fighter but never want to do that with other fighters. Why is that? Can anyone provide clarification.

Also if PBF wins or dominates I will be shocked. I'll Holla 5000

 

:crafty: Nervous?

 

That might be the first post you have ever made which didn't make me want to call for your death. :: ::

 

Duran didn't beat Barkley. The judges did.

 

Hell yeah. WHat do you think. WHen was the last time a owned this many advantages over one of your favorite fighters. I'll Holla 5000

 

Regardless people still give him credit for that victory. I'll Holla 5000

 

:dunno: Why's he the favourite to win then?..Overration perhaps?..

 

Rubio...Ali quit too. Have you not seen his fight against Larry Holmes?

 

Your a tool. Oscar was carrying ROLLS of fat in that fight, in a weight class he didn't belong in. If Ali came in at a lardy 230lb against George Chuvalo and barely scraped a gift decision would it have marked the end of his prime?

 

No, just the same as it didn't with the likes of norton and young. Btw Rubio probably hasn't even seen those fights, he's probably just seen of the many showings of rumble in the jungle and thriller in manilla, the rest are just results he's read on boxrec. He doesn't actually watch boxing, just goes by numbers and results.

If you notice, you'll never actually see him analyze fighters, styles, matchups etc, only talk about odds and results.

Rubio is a crippled sham.

 

Since every other Floyd/Oscar related thread is being bumped up, I thought this one should too.

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And to answer the question, YES, if Mayweather did dominate Oscar (even a badly faded one as this was), a case could probably be made that he's one of the greats.

But if he were to, say... oh, I don't know... run and stink his way to eek out a split decision... ::

 

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Floyd most certainly did not "dominate" Oscar. However, he obviously is a great fighter. Oscar is great too however... Oscar has never been truly dominated.

 

:atu:Your fucking joking right?