Is there any doubt?

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  1. Anthony

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    That Griffen is Elite? He isnt the best in the world, but he can be competative and beat some of the top fighters in the world. Dana must be really proud of what he has done with this kid. Took a nobody from some TV show and made him into one of the best fighters on the scene. I am not really a huge Forrest fan, but he impresses me with every fight. That being said, i think Jackson might have taken him lightly, But with Jackson's skill, and experience, I didnt think Taken Forrest lightly would totally backfire on him.
     
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    Griffin hasn't got the silky skills but there is no doubt he is an elite fighter.

    I actually like watching the guy I have done since his fight against that Bonner? guy on UFC 1.
     
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    He can hang with the best, that's for sure. Makes you wonder how good an "elite" light heavyweight in the UFC is though, IMO.
     
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  4. TKO

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    Compared to....?
     
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    TKO - Griffin wasn't a fighter when UFC 1 happened. UFC 1 was ages ago, that was Royce Gracie time.

    Godfather - I agree with you 100%. I didn't used to like Griffin for some reason, but I am warming to him now.

    And like you, I think Rampage took him lightly. Rampage looked lethargic and disinterested, there is no doubt about it.

    However, like you I also thought a not-at-the-top-of-his-game Rampage would still be too much for Forrest. Obviously not.
     
  6. TKO

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    I was talking about TUF 1.
     
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    For some reason, I'm interested in Griffin/Liddell. I just wonder if Liddell, if he can't land his big punch, can he go 5 full rounds with a guy 10 years younger and in better cardio shape? I say Griffin wins by decision.
     
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    Griffin is definitely at or near the top of the 205 Rankings. But he could beat Fedor and still people would shit on him, just because he's a TUF fighter.

    I'd pick him to beat Liddell as well.

    There are some great matchups at 205. Between Griffin, Rampage, Liddell, Wandy, Soak-a-Jew, Jardine, Machida, Evans and Shogun, UFC could do a great tournament throughout the next year or so. Plus if Anderson Silva and Rich Franklin stay at 205, that makes the division even more stacked.

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    I think he'd beat chuck
     
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    I think i think that too
     
  11. steve_dave

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    Any other sport.

    MMA is the easiest sport to get good at, really fast, in the world.
     
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    Forrest Griffen is an Elite Fighter. Anyone that can be Shogun and Rampage is elite. And its not like he's landing a lucky punch like Serra. He came from TUF, sure. But he has improved and matuered as a fighter ten folds since then. Liddell has a punchers chance against Forrest, but Forrest is smart enough to get Liddell into the late rounds.
     
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    You should try it then. If it's so easy. A big tough guy like you should be champ in no time. LOL!

    You just hate MMA, admit it.
     
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    He has no basis to back up his argument. Just ignore him.
     
  15. Azazel

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    Let's not get ridiculous, MMA is still a new sport and quite easy to get through compared to other major sports, in a few years, if the popularity don't die, the caliber of athletes will be much higher.
     
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    While I don't think the MMA guys are as skillful as lets say, boxers.

    I don't think anyone could do it. The guys that are new to MMA have been fighting in some form most of their lives.

    I couldn't imagine just anyone being able to deal with a guy like Ricardo Almedias
    jujitsu
     
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    You mean the guy who lost to Cote the other day?
    The guy who jumps guard in a UFC match? :lol:
     
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    Yeah what are you laughing that he almost pulled off a submission in doing so, Ricardo's jujitsu is awesome - it's a shame he can't make it work in the cage
     
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    I don't find jumping guard in the UFC very smart at all to be honest.
    Almost doesnt count :nono:
     
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    It's high risk with a winning reward. How can that not count.
     
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    if he can actually "BE" them... then he really is amazing
     
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    How many times has it actually worked in the UFC?
     
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    I don't know I haven't seen every fight :lol: The majority of the time these high risks moves do not actually work.

    But an example is the flying heel hook that beat Silva - Silva was kicking that guy around the ring until the guy took a huge risk.

    If Silva had blocked and or got out of the way then that guy would have looked pretty stupid and end up being grounded and pounded out.
     
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    Who says I can do it?

    But I would certainly win a title in MMA before I would win the World Series, Super Bowl, Stanley Cup or boxing championship. Lets be serious here.

    These guys are not top level athletes, in comparison.
     
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    Sure I do.
     
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    This is certainly a fair statement.
     
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    MMA fighters are much more skilled then boxers, it's not even close. There's just so much more involved in MMA then boxing.

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    :lol:
     
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    While you're here, why not sticky the July P4P thread?

    TFK
     
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    Done.
     

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