Margarito is BACK!!!!!

Admit it Reed, you got up off your chair and took a long sh*t after the 4th round of that excuse for a fight between Floyd/Baldomir. :: You and I both know that it was an awful fight and a complete rip-off. A complete anticlimax. Floyd deserved all the discredit he got, and he was crying in the post-fight and threatening to retire because he couldn't get no love.
It's fights like that which make you wish Floyd was still a free-tv fighter like he was for years, under the shadows of the stars like Trinidad, Tyson, Lewis and even Roy Jones.

 

Typical Floyd NAYSAYER Rubbish ...

Whether the Fight was Scintillating or NOT, Floyd DOMINATED "The Linear Welterweight Champion"...

Guys like YOU (Not You Specifically) CROWNED Baldomir's Ass, not REED...Then after Floyd EASILY Dominated him, you Guys Bitched about STYLE POINTS...

REED's POINT is, Floyd would DOMINATE Margarito the SAME Way...So After YEARS of Hearing how Floyd is "Scared" of or "Ducking" Margarito, YOU Guys would 1nce Again BITCH about Style Points...

REED

 

yeah i saw the gatti-floyd fight, floyd sr's sentiments were exactly thus:clap:

 

Floyd is the linear welterweight champion, but the division was not nearly as strong at the time he won it.

Cotto hadn't moved up yet, Mosley hadn't moved down yet, and Williams was still a very unproven prospect.

Those things have all changed.

So while Mayweather's considered the best 147-pounder in the world, it's debatable how much he's proven at the weight.

Yet, we're still treated to threads about how the winner of important welterweight fights (such as Williams-Margarito, Cotto-Mosley) haven't proven/earned anything (or whatever spin is put on it).

Mayweather fans are clearly obfuscating the point by relying on labels, instead of actually mentioning names he's actually fought at the weight...so here they are: Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir.

Despite their losses, I think Mosley and Margarito are still better welterweights than Hatton...and wonder why threads haven't been made questioning why Hatton somehow jumped to the front of the "contenders" line at 147.

 

100%Agreed, and, FYI, the reason Hatton is to the front for a Mayweather fight is because

A. Mayweather thinks he can't be beaten by him

And

B. Hatton is undefeated, which counts for a lot today, more than it should

And

C. Hattons people helped put the fight together.

Now, Cotto is undefeated and his people CoULD have helped make the fight but:

1. Cotto kind of queered the pitch by fighting the oft-beat Judah and

2. Floyd sees what he thinks are the merits of an easier, bigger money fight with Hatton

I think thats as simple as it can be made.

 

It's obvious Mayweather wants to fight big-money fights, his only problem is he can't sell by himself and needs to fight ticket-sellers to do so and that means guys like DLH and Hatton. It could also mean Cotto and Mosley.

But there's less perceived risk with Hatton.

 

Well, I think Floyds perceptions are about to change.

Hatton is as big a risk as anyone else right now........its a question of perceived risk vs actual calculable reward. Apply that formula to everyone from Cotto to Oscar and Hattons name keeps popping up.

 

dsimon writes:

Well Aussie lad with some of us it is in jest.... partially. We simply like to rib Kaulki. But let me ask you this: Why in fuck's name was Margarito fighting a can last night? Yes Roy JOnes would fight Cans to showcase his skills.... Is that what Margarito was doing?

Margarito was fighting a can when he could have been fighting Cotto. Sorry but that is a little incriminating. You want to know something? Margarito may be a lot of things, but his next chance he better step the fuck up! Then he can be judged accordingly.

 

dsimon writes;

But Karl really.... Against a guy in Gold Sequians, soft as the day is long, from San Antonio? Did Margarito need that fight?

 

dsimon writes:

That is where you and Ortho fall apart. Hatton is a very risky fight to take. Hatton is faster than Margarito and beat two guys way above the ranks of anyone Margarito fought. You really have to stretch hyperbole if you think Margarito is more risky than hatton.... Maybe you could say Cotto and even that is a stretch.

 

There's no maybe about Cotto.

As for Margarito, I said it was a personal opinion that Margarito (and Mosley) were both better welterweights than Hatton.

 

Yup. Of course, one has to take into account the opponent and it's pretty much a fact that Golden showed up for a paycheck....

But I did think Margarito showed he learned some lessons from the Williams fight - he started VERY fast; and he tightened up his shots significantly.

Peace.

 

That was very well laid out.

 

dsimon writes:

You need to refer to Double L's fact thread.:: ::

 

"You really have to stretch hyperbole if you think Margarito is more risky than hatton.... Maybe you could say Cotto and even that is a stretch."

There's no stretching of hyperbole necessary to think Cotto is "more risky" than Hatton.

 

:doh: ,.......................The reason for this new rise is due to that painful tweak implanted into his devoted clingers hearts, at the horrifying sight and sound of Fraud's DISTURBED reactions upon journalists confronting him with questions related to Margarito at various press conferences during mid 2006, it made his groupies bewildered to psychotic and hysterical proportions. I'm just relieved that Fraud is a dumb transparent imp, who has no capacity or reserve to disguise the appearance of his true inner feelings, therefore thoroughly raping the spin on standby well in advance of the fallout, they knew when this bomb exploded that it was going to take alot of work to rub it all away, so much work infact, that it's still evident to date in this very thread, a year plus after the initial blast.

I advocate to allow them the liberty to release the tension, it's healthy, let them do what they've got to do, as they are frankly inmaluable, they will probably stay firmly in denial for eternity, it's just the simple coping nature of the personality, applied to all situations of thier lives. I dont want them to suffer any longer than they have to, I just hope in vain they realise that if they ayr on the philosophical side of purity and fairness towards this sport and all it's participants, they'll need never again have to writh and wriggle so intensely, for so very, very long, whenever adverse circumstances arise, and with a cunt like Fraud, it's bound to happen over, and over, and over, and over again.

 

"irrelevant" fits nicely with your agenda of never wanting to see PBF lose to him.