Running and light exercises for Miguel Cotto in Puerto Rico!

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  1. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Running and light exercises for Miguel Cotto in Puerto Rico.....Miguel will be at ringside for the Aug 22 fight card featuring Daniel Jimenez vs. Shamir Reyes in Ponce, Puerto Rico. Top Rank and Cotto Promotions are co-promoting.


    It's good to see Cotto keeping in shape with light workouts. I can't wait to see him in action again. Also Cotto is ranked #1 in WBO where Paul Williams is currently champion. I would like to see Cotto in a tune-up bout and then go for another world title. A Cotto/Williams fight will be very intriguing. It's a big risk but in this business if you want to be great you gotta take risks! A win over Williams will be huge for Cotto!
     
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    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Williams would rape Cotto. Boxers don't fight enough, but he took a beating. He needs some time off.
     
  3. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Paul Williams is a completely different fighter than Margarito. Don't start overrating Williams. Styles make fights. Let's not forget how Quintana beat Williams without much trouble in the first fight. It's a risk but high reward!
     
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    Haymaker WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    right. williams doesn't have as much pop as margarito, and his chin might not take as much punishment as marge's did. Cotto have a chance in this fight.
     
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    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Easy win for Williams. What you guys forget is Cotto is not a puncher a welter. Williams will win a ud easily. If he just jabs off his back foot Cotto will get shutout.
     
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    Agreed! Williams aint the pressure fighter margarito is either. Cotto should take a good tune-up fight and then go for the gold again. It's about taking risks to be great! A impressive win over Williams will put Cotto back in the picture.
     
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    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Cotto is a very good puncher. He just ran into a brick wall with Margarito. Not too many welterweight can take the barage Margarito took.
     
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    Quintana isnt a puncher either but beat williams. And Quintana's stamina is much worse than Cotto's. Even before Quintana got caught in the first round, he was landing some hard shots.
     
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    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Ok. I don't disagree. He is also a fat midget at 147. He will run into alot of brick walls now. He just isn't all that. I guess, I am talking to a brick wall. You Boriquas still think Trindad was an atg, lol.
     
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    Your writting off Cotto too fast over his 1 loss. :warning:
     
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    I wrote Cotto off 4 years ago. He is a good fighter. Nothing more. He is not a dominant type fighter. Williams will walk through Cotto like he did Quintana BOTH times. Williams lost but he never stopped taking shot and that is why helost. He got outlanded. Williams walked through Margarito's shots for 12 rounds something little Jotito couldn't do for 2 without running for his life. Cotto has made skills, the personality of a women with a gunshot wound to the head and a lobotomy and an average chin. I would be surprised if he beat Cintron.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    yeah but if Cotto goes on to beat Williams..you will write that off as Cotto beating another bum...or some average joe that was never any good.



    Same way you came RUNNING back to teh BOARDS when Cotto lose to Margarito...but HAD Cotto WON...then MARGARITO would just be a bum with no skills..:rolleyes:
     
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    Cotto needs a long rest to have his wounds heal. Then take a gimme fight with someone like Collazo and then go for an easy title fight with Berto. Then he can think of Williams AND a rematch with Margarito a year from now.
     
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    dsimon writes:

    Agreed.

    Cotto needs to work on getting bigger and stronger and going to the body consistantly against a bigger guy. Williams is too big and too strong and may KO Cotto.

    I think Miguel has to learn to use his body attack against the bigger welters and should fight a few guys to get that attack together before fighting a big welter like Williams of margarito.

    If I were cotto I would get a conditioning coach and a rematch with Margarito after a tune up. I would work on getting my body attack together and go for it. A tune up against Cintron is a good idea for him. I think he ahs shown that he can beat Margarito, but that he needs his body attack to do it. Without it Margarito will outland him and walk through him.

    But... Cotto always relied on the body to set up the head, so when he gets back to that it wills erve him well, that and getting some more density for his weight. He needs to get bigger and stronger, there is no way you can fight at the size disadvantage that he did, and hope to be the puncher that Cotto has shown himself to be
     
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    Very good post! I agree and Disagree on a few things. First off I agree Cotto should hire a conditioning coach and rematch Margarito after 1 tune-up fight. Like you mentioned Cotto has shown that he can beat Margarito but he needs his patent body attack/conditioning or there is a good chance Margarito will walk him down again. The part I disagree with is Williams. I don't know of many Welterweights that would have walked through the barage of punches Margarito took. Also Williams and Margarito are 2 completely different fighters. It's a risk but the reward will be great if Cotto wins impressively against Williams.
     
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    I don't know if you can say any top welter has "much" worse stamina than Cotto.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    I disagree GOD DAMMMIT....I DISAGREE!!!:slap:
     
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    I wish Cotto would have fought Tito. Tito would have smashed that dude. I hope Cotto comes back and gets demolished again
     
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    What do you have against Cotto?
     
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    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    A prime Tito would have knocked out every top welterweight around right now. Everyone would have been brutally knocked the fuck out.


    TITO, TITO, TITO, TITO!!!!!!!:hammert:
     
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    Very true. The quality of today's welters doesn't come close to the quality of Trinidad, Whitaker and De La Hoya in their prime. These three guys would had abused the all current belt holders.
     
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    Tito never legitimately beat anyone as good as Margarito, Cotto or even Cintron at welterweight. He beat a beyond shot Whitaker and lost badly to DLH. Trindiad's welterweight reign is worse than many other fighters' runs who get a ton more criticism. Roy, Calzaghe, DM and Ottke had better runs. Outside of his gift decision to DLH, Felix Trindad was a welterweight aRTHUR ABRAHAM.
     
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    trinidad never beat anyone as good as cintron? :lol:
     
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    Yeah what a joke. Vargas was miles better than Cintron. I'd favor a prime Vargas over Cotto as well.
     
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    @ welter. Trindad was a better fighter at 154, imo even though he didn't stay there. His chin was poor at welter because he wasn't realy a welter and had to boil down to it for the last 2 3 years of his fradulent reign. And stop bullshitting about Vargas. He was better than Cintron but he was hardly better than Cotto. He was an good fighter with a slim prime. He never had a world class cin or hanspeed.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Yeah but he beat all time great(ur opinion) Winky Wright fight mighta been close..or whatever..still Vargas had 17 pro fight..fighting a 40+ fight veteran.....and also beat IKE Quartey...two great fighters...
     
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    Vargas did not even come close to eating Winky. Winky out brawled him. Ike Quartey(someone Tito never had the balls toface) was not the same guy. He was inactive. Again, I was talking about Trindad at 147. None of you nut huggers can bring up a single name of a guy Tito beat that Margarito couldn't beat with ease at 147. Go ahead. List his accomplishments at 147 outside of a gift decision over DLH.

    Btw, using your logic Tito best legitimate win over Vargas is questionable because Vargas only had what20 fights. Tito still had to use concrete wraps and foul his way over a guy who had less fights than Tito had Championship fights or close.
     
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    trinidad signed to fight quartey, but don't let the truth get in the way of justifying ignorant claims
     
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    Did Ike Quartey and Trindad fight?

    Yes or no.

    How dare you use the word ignorant. You don't even know that they never fought in reality. I forgot. The only thing better than a real fight is a fight that is signed. Ignoramus.
     
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    if a boxer lacks the balls to fight a certain opponent why would he sign to fight him?

    they never fought, because quartey decided to fight delahoya for more money.

    like I said though, don't let the truth get in the way of your gibberish.
     

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