Fighters who would NOT have won a title in the olden days....

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Double L, Aug 19, 2008.

  1. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    This, of course, will be a much longer list than the opposite one. And some fighters that belong on the list are more important I think than others as far as demonstrating the degree to which the sport has been watered down over the years.

    Can you imagine Ponce De Leon being champion of anything in the 1960's? Let alone managing several defenses of his belt on television?
     
  2. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Obviously if you take out the variations of titles that came after the 1960's many of today's champions wouldn't be back then.
     
  3. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Carlos Maussa
     
  4. Double L

    Double L Book Reader


    I know. But some examples are more revealing than others of just how marginalized the term, "champion" has become. Wouldn't you agree.

    Maussa is a perfect example. The guy was a punching bag with the coordingation of a puppy dog.
     
  5. atomicdOGg34

    atomicdOGg34 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    baldomir, spinks, mayorga

    lots
     
  6. admin

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    Adrian Stone
    Yori Boy Campas
     
  7. Arben

    Arben "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Maybe we should narrow down the list to unified champions or Ring beltholders.

    Baldomir
    Briggs
    Spinks
     
  8. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Agreed.
     
  9. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    :lol: All three of those guys won titles the legit way.
     
  10. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    All of those guys got legit title shots and won. More titles or boxing changing had nothing to do with those guys winning championships. (Although Briggs obviously got a gift)
     
  11. Arben

    Arben "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    That doesn't mean they'd experience success against previous generations.
     
  12. Panchyprsss

    Panchyprsss Clogg's LORD PROTECTOR

    All the WBA HW champions that got the belt without facing the true champ, Larry Holmes.
     
  13. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Yeah, but that argument can go both ways.

    I think this thread is better suited for fighters who won meaningless belts. Not guys who received legit title shots for real championships and won them in the ring. IMO, of course.

    Examples like Vivian Harris, Mazonke Fana and Ponce De Leon all work a little better.
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2008
  14. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Quite a Few of the Recent Heavyweight "Champs"...


    REED:hammert:
     
  15. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Every Venezuelan.
     
  16. Arben

    Arben "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    It's kindof pointless to compare a guy who isn't really the champ to a guy who was a real champ of yesteryear.
     
  17. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Maybe I'm missing the point. (I doubt it:nono:)

    I read this thread as follows:

    You could win one title in the olden days.
    You can win four now.

    What current fighters who have titles would not have won a title back in the day when it was harder to win one?
     
  18. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Thats how I read it too.
     
  19. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Margarita wouldnt get a snift of the Welterweight title in the Leonard/Hearns/Duran era.

    Juan Diaz would barely be relevant in the 80's lightweight division.

    Wlad would barely be relevant in the early 90's heavyweight division.
     
  20. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Neither would Mayweather.

    And Klitschko holds a belt in any era he competes in, IMO. He's alwys going to be a champion in a four belt era. He's a very good fighter and hard to beat.
     
  21. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    It sorta depends on how we're dealing with this subject...if we're taking prime Klitschko and putting that version into the early 90's era, I think he'd have had a good shot against early 90's unified champions Douglas and Holyfield.
     
  22. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Agreed. X is just "one of those guys". The internet is filled with them.
     

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