Duran vs Trinidad @ 154

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  1. whiskey

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    Who gets cock-punching reigns supreme?
     
  2. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Tito by late stoppage in an entertaining yet fairly one-sided fight
     
  3. slystaff

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    word.

    Duran too small.
     
  4. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Trinidad by Decision...8-4

    Trinidad doesn't have Hearns one punch power...i doubt he stops or even drops Duran...
     
  5. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Again, name one hall of fame fighter that Tito legitemately beat?

    That is right ZERO.

    These two fighters are not in the same class. Duran is an all time great no matter what I think of watching him. Felix Trinidad was a B level fighter in his own era. How you ass clowns think that a guy who lost in a landslide to every A level fighter he everfought: Jones,Hopkins,De la Hoya, Winky is going tobeata guy beat gay ray leonard.

    He wouldn't. I said this in the 1990's, wrote this in 2000's and now it isn't a matter debate. Tito's fradulentreign is over and his best legit win was Vargas or Joppy. Joppy'sbest win wasover a 48year old Duran:lol::lol:
     
  6. slystaff

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    You are a simpleton. With logic like this Leon Spinks should have never beaten Ali.

    Ali's age was a factor..and Duran's size would be a factor.
     
  7. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Duran himself lost pretty much to all the great fighters he fought, especially anywhere near 154 lbs. He did beat Leonard yes in 1 out of 3 via questionable decision where Ray fought on his terms. Other times Duran usually got whupped handily and the fact that he had shitload of excuses does not actually excuse that
     
  8. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Nothing questionable about Duran victory over Leonard...:nono: SRL said he wanted to brawl/slug it out in the fight..but thats was probably just an excuses after losing the fight....but maybe Duran made him fight that way....
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Please. The only reason why this decison is not disputed more is that a very popular figure edged an asshole. As for Duran making Leonard fight his way, he miraculously forgot ho to do that in their rematches, against Benitez and other good fighters
     
  10. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    To me this fight would be all about which Duran shows up. You can't discount the fact that above 147 pounds, Duran could be lethargic, disinterested and utterly horrible. However, on other nights, he could be very sharp and provide a difficult night for the even most skilled 154 pounders in history.

    If the best Duran versus the best Trinidad show up at 154 pounds, I like Duran to eek out a decision by mugging Felix and landing enough short, inside counters to sway the judges. Duran could be a master as taking away punching angles and distances. I think Trinidad was always dependent upon controlling those with his jab.
     
  11. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I wonder aloud if you guys have seen Felix Trinidad fight. UGO Duran beat SRL. Trindad was dominated by every A level fighter he fought. Duran could take Tito's punches. No doubt in my mind that Iran Barkley hit 5000 times harder and although Duran lost and got a gift, he took it for the distance.Duran would have beaten him easily and I hate Duran. I expect nothing from you guys and still you disappoint.
     
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    Pascals Wager Undisputed Champion

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    @ 154 Tito by late TKO
     
  13. Trplsec

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    But you clearly choose to forget that Duran was outpointed by subpar fighters like Kirkland Laing and Robbie Sims.

    If you don't think Trinidad could duplicate the feats of those guys, then you are clearly biased.

    And there's not a chance in hell that Barkley hit 5000 times harder than Trinidad. With the exception of Hearns, who the hell did Barkley ever knockout of note? And realistically, he stopped a version of Hearns that was wobbled by almost everyone he fought for the last 4 years.
     
  14. Free Ike

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    iF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT VERSIONS THEN WHY POINT TO THOSE LOSSES. Barkley could crack. He was also a better fighter and more accomplished fighter than Trindad. He beat 2 hall of famer, Duran (it was a gift.)nd Hearns, Tito beat nobody ever legitmately I take it you are a huge Yory boy/david Reid, Vargas type of guy. If you don't think Duran could duplicate that feat. I haven't the time to teach you.
     
  15. Tam Tam

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    Uhm...wow. This is a head scratcher. Not.

    Duran UD or late TKO. Trinidad wasn't smart enough, or good enough.
     
  16. Trplsec

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    If you honestly think that Iran Barkley was a better fighter than Trinidad, there is no sense debating any further because you either never actually watched Barkley or you're just a complete moron.

    I don't put great stock in wins over guys like Reid and Vargas, however, Trinidad was also never stopped by a Robbie Sims caliber fighter or a decision loser to a nobody like Eddie Hall.

    And if you give credit to Barkley for beating a bloated, 39 year old Duran then you need to follow your own rationale and give Tito credit for beating Whitaker, De La Hoya, and Camacho who are also HOF caliber fighters.

    There is zero comparison between the career accomplishments of Trinidad and Barkley. Iran Barkley was a 'win some and lose some' type of fighter. Trinidad was undefeated for almost 12 years as a pro.
     
  17. Hut*Hut

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    Since Trinidad literally doesn't have two boxing brain cells to rub together, I'd go with Duran every day of the week....even the walking zombie version who lost to Laing.
     
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    At 154? Tito, and big.
     
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    Don't confuse accomplishment and ability though. What Tito had was ATG consistency matched with a barely above a average champions ability. A guy who peaked fight in fight out, but it was a B+ peak & he didn't have the boxing IQ to hang with high calibre fighters, end of story. At least Barkley managed that a couple of times, Tito didn't have the ability to. Duran would tie Tito in knots, totally toy with him.
     
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    Exactly.

    Why do these cretins think that a former lightweight with short arms and a swarming style would be able to beat Trinidad and Tito's prime weight?
     
  21. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    because he was vastly, VASTLY better than Tito, that's why :lol:
     
  22. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Yeah, really. Also, the versions of Oscar, Winky and Bernard that Tito fought are significantly better fighters than Duran was at 154, IMO. Not to mention two of those three fights were at 160, and none of them were at 154.
     
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    Yeah, no former lightweight could ever beat the great Felix Trinidad :doh:






    Except for Oscar De La Hoya. :popcorn:
     
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    :nono:
     
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    How he'd do against those three:atu::atu:Ican't believe I won a mm debate. At least, hut hut has seen tito fight. The guy was a b level fighter and not an alltime great. Hemight beat some atg featheweights but not duran. Seriously, he'd kill Tito. I would be like all of Tito's fights against A level fighters a landslide loss.
     
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    I don't know about trinidad at super welter, but duran wouldve beat down delahoya at welter
     
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    Duran would've beat Oscar's ass at ANY weight.
     
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    I agree with you and Alen Doochawitz . DLH was a better fighter than Trindad, more accomplished and fought far better fighters. Yes, Duran would have whooped him. DLH is not an atg either but he was sure as fuck better than Trinidad with 2000 times the skill and ring intelligence(and dlh was a retard).

    Anybody that really thinks that an ATG like Duran would lose to a guy who lost lopsidedly to every fucking single good/great fighter he ever fought is ridiculous.Do you guys Dispute this? Duran could take Tito's punches. He took punches from better and stronger fighters. Trindad could not take Duran. Honestly, you Trindad nutlickers are disgusting. Did you ever watch his career. The guy was losing to Hector Camacho and David Reid after 6 rounds.
     
  29. steve_dave

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    I have seen every one of Tito's title fights.
     
  30. steve_dave

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    Duran is a great lightweight with a few solid wins scattered over the higher classes.
     

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