Hopkins vs Monzon

Discussion in 'Mythical Matchups' started by slystaff, Oct 19, 2008.

  1. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

    Just look at Hopkins vs Pavlik!
     
  2. SAW

    SAW Scrub

    I might venure a guess that Carlos Monzon is just a weeeeeee bit more talented than "The Ghost".

    (and would probably appreciate a great horror movie as well.:popcorn: )
     
  3. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

    If "The Ghost" was fighting the same guys Monzon was fighting he would have probably dominated for a decade also.

    Besides we're talking about PRIME Hopkins here when discussing this matchup..not 43 yr old Hopkins and so even IF for argument sake..Monzon is a little better than Pavlik...Hopkins at 30 was significantly better than Hopkins at 43 and so it balances out....
     
  4. SAW

    SAW Scrub

    Revisionist history at it's finest...gotta love it. Younger doesn't always = better. You're saying the Hopkins who fought Segundo Mercado is better than the Hopkins that beat Trinidad, Tarver and Pavlik? He must be, since he was younger.

    Past-it Bennie Briscoe and Emile Griffith would both have embarassed Pavlik, much worse than Hopkins did. And those are just two examples. Nino Benvenutti would have done the same.

    To suggest that Pavlik would have dominated for a decade if he fought the same calibre of opponents as Monzon merely highlights your lack of in-depth knowledge of any boxers that fought before the 80's.
     
  5. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Sly, I wouldnt discount B-Hop's chances against Monzon at all, but please dont insult Monzon by comparing him to Kelly. Carlos was far more multi-dimensional, and more elusive than Pavlik. Not to mention alot quicker. Saying that Hopkins would shut out Monzon makes you look like a complete fool.
     
  6. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

    Payton 34?
     
  7. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    :atu:you never change
     
  8. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    How isnt it an insult? Monzon is arguably the greatest middle of all time, and a top 15 all timer, and what is Pavlik? A guy who's beaten Jermain Taylor twice.
     
  9. StingerKarl

    StingerKarl Ace Degenerate

    Monzon would have decisioned Hopkins over 15.

    In fact, Rodrigo Valdez would have beaten Hopkins.
     

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