Your new p4p top 5 list

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  1. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I prefer to look at the facts, rather than put my own thoughts and reasons into another mans actions. Neither of us know what happened, how much it did or didnt hurt or why he did it. It doesn't do anyone any good to make your own stories up.
     
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    It means, if fighter A was the same size as fighter B, who would win? And thus, therein lies the P4P campeone.

    Mitchell has a valid point. Sure, he is an incredible fighter, and legit elite fighter and outright phenomimal for his age, but he has been fighting at golden boy promotions. He's been fighting at an Oscar weight, and getting fighters to move up. He fights at light heavyweight but has only fought 1 lightheavy since his move there.

    Just like Oscar is hardly going to secure a spot on the P4P rankings by beating Pacman at Oscarweight.

    Also, despite being a big Pacman fan, I have to agree with Sly - Calzaghe has to be #1 on a P4P list. He's legitimately undefeated, and is the only man to convincingly defeat Nard since Jones.

    I could imagine Calzaghe beating any fighter in the sport if they were the same natural weight, and that's pretty much how the #1 P4P fighter should be viewed, even if he does sometimes slap like a girl :lol:
     
  3. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Right. So what does something like a weight division have to do with a P4P discussion?
     
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    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Like I said, I personally had Calzaghe winning a close but clear decision, and disagree with those who had Hopkins winning. But then, there are people who vehemently refuse to believe that Pac could've lost either fight with Marquez, never mind both.

    That's all I'm saying, there's enough argument on both sides for it to not be as open and shut as some make it out to be.
     
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    bpg Leap-Amateur

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    1. Calzaghe
    2. Pacquiao
    3. Hopkins
    4. Marquez
    5. Williams

    6. Calderon
    7. Vasquez
    8. Margarito
    9. Dawson
    10. Mijares

    Fringe (in no order): Klitschko, Kessler, Cotto, Hatton, Guzman, R. Marquez, Donaire.
     
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    D MAN "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Something worth mentioning, #1 through 4 on almost everyones list is unanimous.. something we haven't seen in several years at least
     
  7. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    It's true that nobody knows how it felt but Hopkins. If he really did bring in a cup that was too small, that's really on him anyways.

    The punch went low because Calzaghe ducked under a Hopkins left, and Hopkins' weight helped pushed Calzaghe down.

    Whatever Hopkins felt, it clearly disrupted Calzaghe's momentum.

    Regardless, from where I was sitting it looked like Calzaghe clearly won a close decision.
     
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    1. Bute
    2. Calzaghe
    3. Pacquiao
    4. Hopkins
    5. JM Marquez

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