Required Accomplishment for "over-rated" fighters to dispell their reputation....

At this stage. there are many fighters who are considered over-rated.

Sam Peter comes to mind. Edison Miranda. Or even Kelly Pavlik in light of his loss to Hopkins.

And I think most at this point would consider Mijares over-rated. Arce too.

Besides listing more fighters who you think are over-rated, what single victory, if they were to win, would dispell their reputation as being over-rated?

I think if Sam Peter could get a fight with Povetkin and knock him out it would go a long way towards restoring his ranking as a top heavy-weight.

Also, I think if Arce could beat Vic, obviously his loss to Mijares would become forgivable.

Here's some examples of cases that have already occurred in which a fighter, who was thought to be over-rated, dispelled this repuation with a single victory:

Sloppy's win over Lacy in their wrestling match
Margarito's beating of Cotto
Abraham's KO of Miranda
Paulie's courageous loss to Cotto
RJJ's win over Ruiz
JMM's win over Casamayor
Casamayor's win over Katsidis
Juarez's KO of Barrios

 

if you could defeat your opiate addiction it would go a long way in dispelling the forumwide opinion that you are a worthless dope fiend who knows fuck all about pugilism.

 

dude, i've been off the shit for 6 years. you don't know fuck-all about me. stop pretending you do.

what i find myself wondering is who's the biggest prick on the board, you or Tam-Tam. and secondly, i wonder whose ratio of dick-size to prick-hood is smaller. in both cases i'm sure it's an unimaginably small number.

 

by the way, why would a thread such as this one elicit such hostility from you? what is it you're missing in your life that makes you such an azz-hole? my guess is you're one hideous sucker who hasn't had a date in years. either that or you're married to a pig who makes you dry heave when you're in bed with her.

 

Andre Berto - a win over basically any universally ranked Top 5 welterweight

 

That day will never come.

 

Double L, the problem with what you wrote (besides that you wrote it) is that you are giving them credit after one win, just like what causes them to be overrated.

 

GOOD Topic & Examples...

There HAS to B a Large # of Fans AND Media Predicting the OTHER Guy to Win, to RIGHTFULLY Overcome the "Overrated" Label...

U Could've ALSO Used Roy vs. Toney OR Roy vs. Griffin II (To a LESSER Degree)...Both of those were "PROVE it to me NOW" Type of Fights...Beating Calzaghe would B Another LANDMARK Type of Win for Roy....Even Roy's HARSHEST Critics will have to SHUTthefuckUP AFTER he Wins Saturday Night...

Floyd vs. Hernandez, Corrales, Castillo II AND Hatton R Other Examples...Hatton vs Tszyu & Castillo R Examples...Tszyu vs. Judah & Mitchell R Examples...

As BAD as Pavlik Looked vs. Bernard, he Still PROVED Himself N the 1st Taylor Fight...N the SAME Amount of Fights, Pavlik HANDLED Taylor Much EASIER than Bernard did...

A Lower Level Example is Vincente Escobedo's Most Recent Win...While he STILL has ALOT to Prove, that Win Gave Escobedo Some "Breathing Room"...


REED:kidcool:

 

dsimon writes:

Jesus...Ike is right you are a stalker prick. Double L is our most consistant poster...

 

Double L if I ever saw you I would throw dog shit in your face. I am enraged that you were an opiate addict. That is personal. You give us a bad name. Fucking disgrace

 

I don't know what is worse, his opinions on boxing or your spelling. credit to double for at least being mildly entertaining in his hairbrained attempts at logic. whatever you write is consistEntly long winded and dull.

 

I am far more knowledgeable than you or just about anyone else in regard to boxing.Btw, nothing is worse than Darrell's spelling. . Still, he is smarter than you will ever be,cameron!!

 

I disagree, baldelli. you make too many retarded, outlandishly absurb claims to be considered knowledgable in pugilism. I wouldn't really be able to tell you whether that chap in question is smarter than me since I rarely read his boring babble.

 

What is Baldelli? I have flowing hair. Ask anyone, gamberetto.

 

Hopkins method,..was quite effective, pulling up big names from 3 divisions below,... that always suckers a majority of fightbeat posters.

 

This is for dsimon:

Wladimir Klitschko needs to knock out David Haye...and then the ghosts of Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Ali, Foreman, Holmes and the like.

 

yeah. because honor is obviously a priority of yours. you're too dumb to fence with - at least tam and neil can provide coherent responses that address the issues (with frequent exceptions, of course).

 

I don't know that a fighter necessarily has to be an underdog to dispell an over-rated reputation.

I think it can be as simple as fighting a "style" they haven't fought against before...or done well against in the past.

In that sense, Taylor was largely seen as a fighter who was protected against "punchers" so he did have something to prove in the Pavlik fight.

That was a chance for him to dispell a reputation...but getting knocked out didn't exactly do that.

He did manage to regain some of his rep in the rematch by going the distance and making it close...at the higher weight.

The "chinny/avoids punchers" stigma is obviously one people have attached to Wladimir Klitschko. That there aren't that many in the division has certainly been a benefit to David Haye.

 

I guess part of this depends on how much you think a fighter can "dispell" against someone like Michael Katsidis or Jorge Barrios.

 

That wouldn't be enough, not when Shannon Briggs is still around.

 

Is this what passes for Boxing discussion nowadays? :doh:

 

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