Well I think a prime Roy would throw more punches, wouldn't you? He just didn't pull the trigger. But I think you have to give credit to Calzaghe for, once again, outsmarting another fighter. Roy was thoroughly befuddled. I'll have to watch it on TV to see what I missed live but Jones looked like a fighter who couldn't or wouldn't pull the trigger. That is the essence of a shot fighter.
Yep, but I guess the reason I asked the question is you were ADAMENT that Jones wasn't shot, and had just aged a bit and changed his style accordingly. In fact in some threads you actually insulted me for insinuating that Jones was shot :: For example here, you actually state that the notion of Jones being shot is "ludicrous". So I guess if he's not shot, he's only a little washed up, and not too far removed from his prime ;) As you said before, his confidence was the main problem.
No. I've also stated my concern was that while Jones showed he still had gas left in the tank, he was at an age where he could lose it on one night regardless. That said, I picked Jones to beat him based on his performance against Hanshaw. Not too bright in hindsight but I thought Roy looked terrible against Tito. Yet somehow in my mind I attributed that to how average Roy looked coming forward throughout his career as opposed to playing the counterpuncher against Hanshaw. By the sixth round, I saw the error of my ways.
Yeah he was but I'll say something - Calzaghe did the same thing to Hopkins and I thought Hops had nothing left too. In Roy's case it may be true but I think Calzaghe deserves some credit for making the right adjustments and nullifying the opponent's best weapon again.
He says he was: "He won the fight, he definitely won the fight," Jones said. "Those pitty pat punches he throws were a little harder than I thought. I couldn't see out of my left eye. I don't know what's next for me. I worked so hard for this fight. I just don't know. I couldn't figure him out."
Not quite. Calzaghe BARELY beat Hopkins fighting at full steam (I scored it for B-Hop on the night). He just won 11 rounds vs Jones while basically toying with him.
I see what you're saying but that speaks to more of what Hopkins has left as opposed to Roy. I've never scored Calzaghe-Hopkins. Just can't. But each time I watch it I walk away feeling Calzaghe won. My point was that in both fights he nullified his opponents best weapon to such a degree that, offensively, they both looked inept. Roy far moreso than Bernard.
I don't care what punch stat numbers say that version of Roy was not the one in his prime. Calzaghe took it easy on him. When he wasn't throwing he spent two minutes of every round doing what looked like the Welsh-version of the Superman. Prime Jones could ratchet it up in a fight like this.
Nard did better than Roy, but mainly because he was better defensively and moved more. He still couldn't figure Calzaghe out. The fight was easy to score. First 3 rounds to Nard easy, and the rest to Calzaghe. The only other round that you could give to hopkisn was round 9 I think, where Nard tried to get Joe DQ'd and came back strong after the rest. Personally I didn't give it to Nard, for beign a bitch. Joe won no less than 8 rounds, it was just an ugly fight.
That wasn't my perception of the fight when I was watching it. I felt like B-Hop had Joe figured out pretty good but couldn't match Joe's pace. Calzaghe basically pulled it out with work rate alone.
