Weights from London - Haye=Barrett predictions

You show me a post where I said that Haye was anything more than live body or an interesting body...

Good luck

MTF

 

You aint kidding...

MTF

 

dsimon writes:

And despite the haters in Australia and the Hebrew wedding skirt Haye marches on!!! :cheer: overcoming adversity to beat the slickster the talented the seemingly omnipotent Monte Barret en route to a showdown with the scared shitless German Robots...

Mitchell Kane Haye has a picture of your posts and evertime he knocks out another he screams at it!!! :mj:

 

Darrell, Barrett looked pretty slick tonight didn't he? ::

 

My stream was poor but I thought Haye was fighting Pernell Whitaker for awhile. Slick and Monte Barrett are almost the same word.

 

I got nothing against the guy, just don't think much of him as a heavyweight contender.

I certainly didn't think he deserved a shot above someone like Povetkin, but now that he's on the shelf and no unifications appear all that likely, if Wlad wants to fight him should he take care of business against Rahman, whatever.

I don't think it'll be all that competitive, but if there's some desire for it, so be it...and if Haye fights as tough as he talks, it should at least be entertaining.

I would say, though, that Klitschko-Haye would be a bigger fight if Haye put a couple more performances like that together on HBO's airwaves...and Lamlpey gives him the typical slurp job that only he can.

Haye is an anonymous fighter to most Americans, who probably haven't ever seen a second of his fights and who might, at best, read a paragraph about his performance in tomorrows papers.

 

dsimon writes:

Enough! Haye knows about the Kabal you guys formed {hebrew wedding skirt, Crickey.... and that slickster monte "zoot suit" Barret!} He is ready for the German robots!! ::

 

dsimon writes:

Seriously though... yes he is entertaining because of the punch and yes he could use some exposure. I wouldn't think much of him either but I looka t boxing through the basic laws of supply and demand. Right now there is a darth... total lack of supply, of explosive punchers in the heavyweight division, si I think Haye has his place.

Brewster, who I was fond of, Peter, etc are all water under the bridge. They do not fight with any ability or desire to win any longer imo. Haye does and if he catches he has the ability to make The Klits rise to the occasion... I don't think he could beat Vitali yet but he could be a handful for Vlad early on.

 

Perhaps, though I guess I think more of Wlad than do others on here, and think he should be able to deal with Haye's early offense - perhaps with a lot of holding early on to try and wrestle some of the strength out of Haye's legs - and eventually settle in to some nice target practice.

One thing's for sure, it should be a lock to end inside the distance...as should his fight with Rahman.

Klitschko, as well as viewers, might like the change of pace from those awkward he's been fighting.

 

dsimon writes:

I don't dislike Vlad on principle. I think he should challenge himself is all. I dont like the idea that a monopoly with his brother should be the focus. It seems to illconsider the fans desire to see his skills agianst the best comp.

And I know that this is a prejudice I have but I will state it: Unlike the other divisions in boxing the heavyweight imo is the gold standard. So while JOnes and Calzighe could get away for a large part of their careers putting on fighting clinics against bums, I believe the heavies should never fall into this process. Like life itself the heavies must always be on the edge... always fight the guy who could take it away from them. :warning: Thats why my favorite division will always be the heavies.

 

typical perverted british production, the referee and commentator presumably fed the same brand of hallucinogenic drugs.

really, though, haye's power seems to be something to worry wlad. every punch he landed (and every leaping headbutt) put monte in trouble.

 

That's one way of looking at it, another way would be that Monte looked utterly shot, and was being hurt by glancing blows. Now you can't tell me that haye hits harder than the Klits, hard enough that even glancing blows knocked Barrett down ::

He may have legit heavyweight power, but I don't think last night proved it either way, I'd like to see him fight someone less shot and more durable, someone that wasn't whupped in 2 rounds by Cliff Couser.

 

Agree, but sort of like a cross between Pernell Whitaker and a tired, confused Orangutan.

 

whatever anyone thinks about Haye's chances against the Klitchkoe's - that was still the most exciting & committed heavyweight fight since Tua-Ibeabuchi.

War Haye!:fightme:

 

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for one, that was much better than Tua-Ike, which is a very overrated slapping contest. Second, we have seen plenty of better heavyweight fights

 

i found it very exciting.....however much he was dominating i knew it could only take one shot from Monte to turn the whole thing on its head....there are too many, slow and safety first heavyweights out there....David is a risk taker....

.....he was hurt in that fight too......the punch that landed whilst he was down clearly buzzed him

 

I can think of a number of heavyweight fights that were more exciting during that time frame.

However, I think the fact that it had any sense of excitement to it - as opposed to the feel of an execution - may say something about Haye as a heavyweight.

If the goal is to give the division excitement, perhaps Haye should stick to fighters similarly sized, skilled, and aged as Monte Barrett.

 

Really? In this decade? I must have missed them. Start naming a few....

 

Vitali-Lennox
Brewster-Liakhovic
Wlad-Brewster I

All were much better than Tua-Ike. Also Byrd-Golota, Tyson-Williams, Vitali-Sanders etc were not bad bouts

 

Calvin Brock-Timor Ibragimov
Jameel McCline-Shannon Briggs
Wladimir Klitschko-Sultan Ibragimov
Hasim Rahman-Taurus Sykes
John Ruiz-Fres Oquendo

...among others.

 

Nah. None of those were as entertaining as last night. Lewis-Klitchkoe came close, but lacked a conclusive ending.

 

No. I think the difference here is that this was the first fight where you had a big favorite on this decade. That multiplies the entertainment factor by three at least

 

If you think last night's fight was more exciting than Lyakhovich-Brewster then you have far different criteria than I do for what constitutes "entertaining".

 

Barret looked like some guy fighting in some kind of tough man competition, not a world class boxing match. Absolute crap.

 

How on earth was it exciting? It was a 1 sided beating of an average, shot heavyweight. Barrett is a sloppy bum.

:: at Darrell's idea of Barrett being a slickster, he fought like a slim, dark skinned Butterbean ::

Lewis - Vitali for example, was a much, much better fight, more competitive and fought at a higher level.

 

Yep :bears:

 

Most exciting heavyweight fight in the last decade? UGH! Fuck you stupid limey cunts. This is why people rag on your fighters, you worthless pricks. You ruin discussion forums with your babble.

Go get some braces.

 

I don't get the hatred for Haye, unless it his personality and capacity for self promotion that grates. IMO, the prospect of klitschko v povetkin, haye v wlad or vitaly klitschko, or even haye vs povetkin (conceivably), and Vitaly vs Valuev...makes 2009 one of the most potentially exciting heavyweight years in quite a while.

Haye might get blown out versus either klitschko but he is rangy, throws in combination, seems to have decent power at HW. Against Vitaly, he might exploit rustiness in a way the stationary Peter never could. I doubt it would be a replay of Vitaly-herbie hide anyhow. Against Wlad, haye could connect quicker and Wlad is fairly fragile himself.

There seems to be some serious brit-hating here, particularly those who dispute his previous claim to be the "man" at CW, or those who have dismissed him as talentless. I don't see many brits here claiming him to be anything other than exciting and vulnerable.

 

Nobody disputed that claim @ CW, so don't re-open a can that was never opened in the first place.

 

My bad if too much was read into it. It read to me like his undeniable accomplishments at CW over 2 significant fights were being minimised as part of a wider attempt to discredit him. For the record, I wouldn't refer to him as undisputed at CW.