Diego Corrales vs Manny Pacquiao at 130lbs

What happens here? opcorn:

 

That's a tough one because we've never seen Manny face a guy with Diego's power. Still, if Manny got dropped and hurt by a fucking jab once I'd have to assume at some point a Diego left hook puts him down for the count. Obviously Manny's speed and footwork would give Chico problems early, but Manny just stays in range too much and would get hurt.

Chico by 6th rd KO

 

I think Chico woulda gotten off the canvas, and layed Manny out at 130. Corrales KO 6.

 

Corrales had a huge problem with quick fighters. I could easily see Pacquiao outbox him for round after round and then knock him out. Or, Corrales's power might win out.

 

Chico had trouble with defensive boxers or power guys who could stand up to his power. I don't see Manny as being either of those. Just my opinion.

 

has pac even defeated a legitimate 130 pounder who's not washed up and coming off a loss?

 

Te be fair, though....that was down at 122, and that was one of those one-off punches that happen in boxing...a very singular occurence (similar to the 6-inch punch that Campas planted on Trinidad's forehead of all places - and knocked him down).

And btw...Hussein is a converted southie I think - and he stepped into that straight left, which Manny never saw.

One of the strangest punches I've ever seen.

Peace.

 

I think at 130 Corrales is a TERRIBLE stylistic match-up for Manny.

Folks talk about Chico "having problems" with quick fighters - but Manny is not a mobile, in & out defensive fighter...

He uses his quickness to be in your face and aggressive, and when he moves backwards it's to cover up.

And Corrales at 130 is not a slow fighter with those quick, short shots.

I think Manny gets tagged repeatedly with huge quick counter left hooks inside and short right hands when he comes in and ultimately gets laid out after an explosive fight where both men are likely rocked and/or down.

Ultimately Corrales recovers faster than Manny does as well.

Peace.

 

I've been having trouble thinking of a response to this topic, because he easily blazed out Gainer, who was a slick fighter in a division in which he was never comfortable. But look at the three Casamayor fights, all of which he arguably lost. And the Freitas fight, most notably. While you could argue that Casamayor was a defensive fighter (I wouldn't), Freitas wasn't a defensive fighter, and he gave Corrales fits for eight rounds. I admit that your point is valid, however.

 

corrales lands a somewhat flush one on the chin, manny flops.

 

I don't think it's much of a fight...

The way Manny leaps in with the straight left, off-balance, head up...for a guy like Corrales with a quick, short, devastating lefthook...it's like playing tee ball.

I can't get over the 1st KD of Angel Manfredy when Corrales clipped him and Manfredy's glove was positioned correctly. Now imagine that same punch landing on a southpaw lunging in with his right hand low.

 

Am I the only one who watched the Casamayor fights?...or the mayweather fight?

How does Corrales handle quick straight punches?

Manny would KD Corrales enough times to get this stopped before Corrales had a chance to time Manny.

 

When you can show me a fight where Manny displays anything close to the boxing skill Casamayor had/has, we can pick up this discussion.

Furthermore, if Corrales was able to clip Casamayor who has much better footwork and balance than Manny...dontcha think he'd have no trouble catching Manny? :dunno:

 

Corrales gets clowned once again. He couldn't block a straight punch and few fighters fire them faster than Manny. Funny fight, though not for Chico

 

casamayor had better defense and a better chin than pacquiao yet he got dropped and hurt on several occasions in their first two meetings.

pacquiao might drop corrales, but his reckless ass gets caught and KOed in a brutal fashion.

corrales was a better 130 pounder than battleworn morales or barrera.

 

I agree. This is simply a matchup between a B-class fighter and an A-class fighter. Corrales can not fight off the back foot which he would have to do here.
Pac KO3 Corrales. Corrales wouldn't even see the KO punch coming.

 

I agree. He couldn't even hit Fruityass until after Fruityass gassed out..

 

I agree with most, I see Chico landing something here and flat out ko's a game pac! Can you imagine the size difference?:eeeek:

 

There is another thing you have to factor in here. Although Pac may be considered a bigger puncher than Casamayor, I don't think Pac would be able to drop Chico as easily. Casa hurt Chico with well timed and well placed punches, just like Castillo did. Manny's punches are mostly straight and not done in such a deliberate manner like Casa's were.

Just take Freitas for example who was always considered a big puncher but couldn't drop Chico once even though he hit him with everything but the kitchen sink. Also Casa's more filled out than Manny who is very thin and much shorter than Chico as well. I just couldn't see Manny dropping Chico, just like I predicted Freitas wouldn't.

 

name one fight where Manny's "lack of technical skill" Kept him from finding his opponents chin with his straight left, ealy and often?

I can't believe CYC is the one who said this, but Corrales is a B level fighter plain and simple, Manny is an A level fighter. Corrales has a poor chin and non-existent defense against quick straight punches. This is a poor person to match Diego with.

 

Name one fighter Manny fought who had the power of Corrales at 130.

Manny is an acculation guy and Corrales had a damn good chin.

 

ok, I'm gonna stop here

 

Corrales was an A-level fighter at 130. Pacquiao was an A-level fighter at 126. At 130, he's just beat up a couple of fading, old fighters.

 

:laughing:

 

:nono: Fruityass didn't hit Chico with everything he had. He fought off the back foot and was pointing him. At no point in that fight did Fruityass sit on his punches and attempt to throw hard.

 

Freitas hit Chico with some good shots. He was on the backfoot but he landed some hard ones.

There was one late in round 3, with about 45 seconds left, when Freitas landed a good right hand with some power. It caught Chico as Chico was throwing his own right so Corrales was off balance and maybe stunned also.

I was surprised that Corrales took it so well given the number of times lesser hitters like Mayweather and Casamayor dropped him.

 

Yup, exactly.

We cannot compare Casamayor and Mayweather's timing, footwork, angles and boxing ability to Manny's approach....especially at 130.

Manny will put himself time and time again in Corrales' line of fire - EASILY AND OFTEN.

Also, Manny will be facing a guy MUCH taller than himself for the first time since I can remember....it will be that much more awkward for Manny, who already likes to overcommit and is squared up on his shots.

Corrales has NO compunction about letting his hands go and punching WITH fighters that are attacking him...that is now MOST of his KDs/KO's have happened.

And Corrales fighting off the back foot? :: Are you kidding me? This fight is PERFECT for Diego....Manny will come RIGHT TO him firing away, squared up and willing to engage.

If slower fighters with longer shots like a somewhat faded Morales, a quite faded Barrera in the rematch, and Marquez were able to catch Manny clean often at close quarters....what will the very quick, short-punching Corrales do?

I hate to say it, but styles do make fights. It isn't always about someone being an A-level fighter and the opponent B-level; hence the opponent always wins.

Boxing history is littered with this kinda stuff.

Will Manny tag Diego? Sure. Would it be a firefight? Absolutely. Both men rocked? Yup.

But ultimately I don't think Manny can stand up to being tagged as often as he's going to be here by perfect Corrales shots....a Diego who has stood up to stronger, bigger, harder-punching fighters at 135, "140" and 147.

Great MM fight!

Peace.

 

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Pacman by late stoppage. Drops him too many times and the referee has enough. If Casamayor could drop Corrales so many times from his lefty stance........

 

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