That, my friends, is a fixed fight

The line had to moved as the Filipino's made their way to Vegas.

 

AGAIN, Just a YEAR Ago, DeLa was 1/2 of THE BIGGEST Fight N the HISTORY of Boxing...Where's the EVIDENCE that he's NOT a "Big Draw" Anymore???:dunno:...REED is Willing to Bet that Last Night's Bout had 2 or 3 Times as Many Viewers as ANY OTHER Manny Pac PPV...Why???...Because DeLa's STILL a DRAW...

Fuck Off w/your "Objective" NONSENSE...U're a Natural Born CONSPIRACY THEORIST, Dude...

DeLa was the BIGGER Man, Facing a Guy Known as the "Mexican Assassin", w/ANOTHER Big Fight (Ricky Hatton) on the Horizon...There's NO WAY DeLa Intentionally LOST, Especially when U Consider the MANNER N Which he LOST...



REED:boohoo:

 

Oscar had

his nylons handed to him and he had a headache to boot.

 

The difference is that these days Oscar needs a big counter part to be a draw, such as Mayweather or Pacman. He won't make millions fighting Patric Charpentiers anymore. If he did, he would. Nobody believed he actually tried to challenge himself here, did you?

And as I saidm after Hatton, which fights would there have been left for him? Pacman has plenty of opportunities to fight on and Pacman-Hatton in Britain or Philippines would draw a gigantic live gate, which would make it as big an event as DLH-Hatton had been. Oscar the promoter could collect the goods without collecting the lumps

 

Bobby Pacquiao.:fightme:

And Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr.

 

You forgot about Ricardo Lopez for the "pride of Mexico".

 

And of course, everything I suggested above would demand that Oscar had some kind of contract with Top Rank,which is even more doubtful

 

No, the terms were that Oscar had to weigh 147 and under at the weigh in. He could've weighed 159 on fight night if he wanted to. There was no second official weigh-in for Oscar.

As for the other post, the reason why Oscar came in so light was because he wanted to preserve his speed, anyone could see that. When I was watching the weigh-in with my fiance during the evening, when they announced Oscar weight, I KNEW he was trying to stay light to preserve some speed because Oscar knew Pacquiao's speed would be his biggest problem. Unfortunately it was a huge tactical mistake because Oscar left too much of himself in the gym.

 

i think if we wanted to we could analyse nearly any fight and give reasons why it could have been a fix :dunno:


but
DLH was very suspicious.....both with the weight and his performance...i can't understand either

the weight is really stupid, he basically ruined himself to make weight and then keep it down, like no one in his camp could see that this was a bad idea...a pro with that many years experience, who fought at very low weights earlier in his career and would understand the impact it had on him during fights
and all those greats he had helping him in his corner

also, he went down in weight weeks before the fight...so he/his team should have realised in training and sparring that he had lost a huge step

people are saying he came at such low weight wanting to keep up with Pac's speed? haha
he has fought Mosley and PBF

 

Pacquiao is clearly faster than both Mosley and PBF.

 

He wasn't faster than Mosley when he fought DLH the first time around....

 

debatable
but ok...so that bit of speed made him want to do something as drastic as weigh in 148 on fight night? which he hasnt weighed on fight night since before he ever fought at welter

are you able to find anything in pre fight articles or information that his camp wanted him to weight 148 on fight night as a strategy for speed? or is this just a theory

it makes sense but amazes me that him and his team could be that shit :shit: and then not realise that the weight loss effected him in the weeks leading into the fight

 

I don't know if that was his team's plan to be honest. It's just the first thought that came to my mind when I was watching the weigh-in. Maybe Oscar is dumb and didn't eat for 3 days just so he could weigh 145 at the weigh-in. Regardless, that's a mistake on Oscar's part.

 

Okay retards...why would delahoya sabotage himself by weighing in light and not gaining weight if he wasn't planning on winning anyway? Why not come in at 147, gain 13 lbs, tank it, and then still blame the weight loss?

Or why not kick pacq's ass for a while, then get 'tired' and get stopped?

Or why not just start trading with manny and go down when he clips you?

No, it would be far more convincing to starve yourself so that you couldn't win even if you wanted to and then it would be better to not win a round...just eat punches...how bad could it be? No one ever dies from getting hit flush and Oscar has always loved to get hit (as someone else pointed out).

Poor Oscar and his imaginary gambling debts. No wonder he'd risk going to jail. He had no other options to make money. Marco Antonio Barrera must have had the same problem before he fought Pacq the first time. Manny is just always at the right place at the right time, I guess. Juan Manuel Marquez must have only had a small gambling debt so he could fight harder, but still make sure he loses close.

 

Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Larios, Dela Hoya, Ledwaba all had gambling debts.
::

 

JMM had the biggest debts of all :nono: do you know what the odds are on a draw?

 

:: :bears:

Good on you son. I honestly think one has to be severely retarded to believe Oscar threw this fight by taking a non stop beating for 8 rounds, to pay off his mythical gambling debts :: ::

 

:bears:

 

So Marquez KNEW the Fight would B a DRAW???...U CONSISTENTLY Produce DUMBASS Posts, but this just MIGHT B your DUMBEST....



REED:boohoo:

 

hahaha...well done

 

you don't think it's odd how Marquez purposely got knocked down so many times early, then won the exact number of rounds needed to get a draw?


it is well-known that Marquez is a degenerate gambler, just read his book

 

:::laughing:

 

Maybe was checking out his shoes, wondering why Manny didn't look like a midget compared to DLH.

 

:::laughing:

 

Maybe somebody has already addressed this but I'd like to ask, was it worth DLH taking a dive against Pacquiao in the long run? If DLH indeed took a dive, he obviously made a lot of money on the betting tables but he also has RUINED any chance of participating in any more big time blockbuster multi-million dollar paydays. His stock took a major plunge.
Would it not have made MUCH more sense for DLH to beat Pacquiao so that he can have a few more multi-million dollar paydays in future fights where his marketing potential and stock is still high?
Just asking?

 

Not if he didn't want to fight anymore.

 

i wonder the same..

DLH just took a beating and really did not fire back

 

Yup.

DLH's legs have been gone for a long time now...dropping to 145 just makes it much, much worse.

I'm not even sure he was the "stronger man" in the ring on Saturday, either.

People are forgetting just how bad DLH looked against Forbes in his previous fight, AT 150, just 7 months ago.

And that was against a much lighter-punching, slower, softer, weaker, older opponent with less movement, whose quite on the decline and way above his weight class (you could argue Manny is, but the point is Manny fills out waaay better than Forbes does and can compete at higher weights).

And Forbes doesn't have half of Manny's stamina or workrate.

Against Forbes, DLH's face was marked up, he was slow, stiff-legged, and slow to pull the trigger.

When DLH dropped down to 145....that was a big, big mistake. Many maybe figured he'd show a return to form and it would help him be faster, and better....

But he's 35. And he only fights like 1x/year, if that.

All it did was hurt him.

Throw a 142lb. motivated, more well-rounded Manny into that mix who is in his prime and fought perfectly...

And the story is there.

Forbes couldn't unmask it with DLH at 150....but it's a whole 'nother story fighting a prime Manny with DLH at 145...we saw what should have happened 7 months ago.

It's the contrast that shows.

Peace.

 

Okay retards...why would delahoya sabotage himself by weighing in light and not gaining weight if he wasn't planning on winning anyway? Why not come in at 147, gain 13 lbs, tank it, and then still blame the weight loss?

Because he needed to make himself look as close to the same size or smaller than Manny
Or why not kick pacq's ass for a while, then get 'tired' and get stopped?

Or why not just start trading with manny and go down when he clips you?

Because he could easily knock out Manny in an exchange. As we all remember the vaunted power of JMM stunned Manny.
No, it would be far more convincing to starve yourself so that you couldn't win even if you wanted to and then it would be better to not win a round...just eat punches...how bad could it be? No one ever dies from getting hit flush and Oscar has always loved to get hit (as someone else pointed out).

I think you want to see a fixed fight be an obvious fix, like a Tyson-Seldon type of 1 rd fight.
Poor Oscar and his imaginary gambling debts. No wonder he'd risk going to jail. He had no other options to make money. Marco Antonio Barrera must have had the same problem before he fought Pacq the first time. Manny is just always at the right place at the right time, I guess. Juan Manuel Marquez must have only had a small gambling debt so he could fight harder, but still make sure he loses close.

No knows why he would tank this fight. Every theory is just speculation. We all know Manny stands to make far more money in future earnings than Oscar does fighting. If Manny goes to fight with Golden Boy Promotions after this contract ends, I will bring this post back.

 

You are putting words in my mouth to say that I am sure that the fight was to pay off gamblng debts. He did it for money one way or another whether its a percentage of Manny's fututre earnings or a guarantee that Manny signs with Golden Boy, pure speculation.