hatton - pacman, may 2 2009

Until Manny beats a legitimate, elite fighter at 140 or above, I'll continue to pick Hatton. To pick him simply on the basis of Pac beating the semi-retired, shot cross dresser is presumptious in the extreme.

MTF

 

The latest from Arum on this fight:

 

:bears::bears::bears: CBS doing a 24/7 kinda thing on national TV would be great for the Fight...and even better for the SPORT>..:mj:

 

I just hope this fight is in Vegas so I can go. I think the Dubai rumor is Arum posturing for more cash from the casinos.

 

maybe for now, but i can see fights going there in the future.....there has been a lot of investment in sports facilities there along with various tycoons who are willing to throw money about for fun

 

Yeah, but that market will most likely get Pacquiao tune ups and regional star title fights. The talk was Pacquiao/Valero a year or so back. I can't see them getting a huge fight like Pacquiao/Hatton over Vegas/England, not for a while anyway.

 

I agree,.. Pacquioa is waaaaaaaaay overrated at this point in time, but the benefit for him is that Hatton handles southpaws about as well as Fraud handles Margarito propositions, he's extremely vunerable.

 

If it was the Hatton that beat Urango, Manny would be a slight favorite. However, Hatton just beat a slick fighter without excessive holding. He beat up Malignaggi in impressive fashion and even better than Cotto did. I think it will be a close fight but to completely rule out a Hatton win or a Hatton KO win, is ludicrous.

 

Urango can punch, Paulie cant. That explains the differance in strategies. Manny can punch, AND he's very fast AND he's a southpaw. I think those three factors spell disaster for Hatton.

BTW - Cotto was weight drained as a muthafucka when he fought Paulie, which is the ONLY reason why Paulie lasted the distance.

 

Manny by KO whenever he feels like it.

 

I wish there was a double header instead, with the winners facing each other in a SUPER 140lb SHOWDOWN,..

Bradley vs Hatton
Kotelnik vs Pacquioa

It scares Arum and Oscar just to think about it, the cash grab, would be out the fucking window, Bradley vs Kotelnik, ppv, Las Vegas, $50..crying all the way

 

Hatton will get blitzed.

He's WAY to slow for Pac

 

Hard to see how Hatton wins this one. Because of his fighting style, it'll be exciting and Manny will look like a beast.


Pacquiao KO 6

Get ready for Mayweather-Pacquiao.

 

Hatton has shown to struggle with Southpaws in the past, the first notably Eamonn Magee... the fight which also debuted Hattons hit and hold tactics. He also suffered considerably against Collazo. Manny will be too fast with the straight left and it would not surprise me to see this end in less than half the time it took Mayweather.

 

I hope Manny gets stretched now. He's due.

 

The DLH fight can be so misleading....just cos Pacquaio danced round a lead-footed DLH doesn't mean he is Willie Pep all of a sudden

If that fight never happened, then i think the board would be split down the middle on this one

I see a couple of scenarios....one is Manny being too quick, sticking and moving, peppering shots through the Hatton guard...forcing a stoppage mid-late on

another, and not a lot less likely is Hatton bullying Pacquaio....Hatton has very quick feet.....i can't remember Pacquaio being pushed back against the ropes before, if he ends up there then he'll have to re-invent himself again.....and who is to say that won't happen?.....we haven't seen anyone try that since Barrera at 130

Hatton's head movement showed improvement vs Mallignaggi....it is very important that he continues to show development in that area for this fight

 

I saw Hatton get tagged with his chin in the air. Even Malinaggi caught him that way at times, of course he can't punch at all. People can say that Pac-ODLH was misleading, and I understand why. However Hatton-Malinaggi was misleading as well. Malinaggi had not looked good lately and was made for Hatton.

 

......but we have more to draw on than just that one fight with Hatton..


....Mallignaggi tagged him a couple of times....but Mallignaggi is good enough to land a few clean shots on anyone....this is world championship boxing afterall......

....Hatton had the head movmement vs Tszyu, he kind of neglected it for a few fights, relying on his strength too much....but Floyd got it back, and it is key that that part of his game is sharp vs Manny

 

And we have more to draw on than just that one fight with Manny.

Manny has always been a better fighter than Hatton, it's not even up for debate.

Beforehand, I might have thought Hatton was too big, but Manny, bizarrely, is such a powerful beast that he is suited to 140 just fine.

Also, Hatton USED to have quick hands and feet. He used to have underrated speed/athleticism, but he has slowed down.

Pacman hasn't, he's as quick as ever. He has much quicker hands and feet than hatton.

I think he hits harder at 140, AND has a better chin.

It won't be THAT easy for pacman, because hatton of course is going to come forward, hold, grab, try and rough pacman up, and is probably going to succeed a bit.

But ultimately pacman is too good for hatton, and should stop him in about 9 rounds.

 

Has Vegas set a line for this fight yet?

 

I dont think Hatton is the guy to do it, though. Too slow and and he's had problems with southpaws in the past.

 

LV Sun:

 

Thanks. Hatton seems like a decent bet. The line will go higher toward fight time, probably ending up at 3-1 for Hatton or most likely 2.5.

 

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....50-50 is fair when you take into consideration the PPV numbers Hatton brings in

 

60/40 Seems to B a BIT Much, N REED's Opinion...50/50 or 55/45 (N Pac's Favor) Seems Fair...Hatton IS a Draw & his Peeps Travel Across the Pond N DROVES...

Hopefully they Agree to Terms...



REED:hammert:

 

Yeah, but I always thought the numbers could get problematic for this fight. Both have been apart of huge ppv's in the States, but neither have really established ppv numbers on their own here.

Hatton can get ppv numbers in Britain and bring over thousands upon thousands of fans to Las Vegas, while Pacquiao has what is a growing number of fans, in addition to his Filipino supporters, but while he's certainly elevated his status after DLH, it's not clear to what extent yet.

 

Why don't they go 40/40 and let the winner have the remaining 20%.

 

Because this is boxing.

You don't get paid on performance until the next fight.

 

True, but I wish someone in the negotiations would bring it up publicly to make an ass of the other party.