SHOWTIME Fight card 4/04/09

Don't U Get it, Jaws is Looking for SHOCK VALUE...



REED:shit:

 

He had the senses to take the knee and ensure he received full nine seconds to clear whatever effects the shot had. That´s usually the sign of a fighter, that knows what is going on around him. His legs were steady, his eyes were clear.

 

Aaaah....O.K...

So Bradley's Legs WERE Good, he just Took the Knee for DECORATION???....



REED:dunno:

 

Yes. :doh:

 

Kidding? No. Holt has tremendous technical ability. By modern standards absolutely top drawer technical ability. But then, as someone who thinks Tito Trinidad was better than Wilfredo Benitez & Carlos Ortiz, technical ability is clearly something you have difficulty identifying. ::

 

You might well be right, REED. I didn't actually realize that Holt had been stopped twice. Explains allot. Still, I'd go out of my way to watch Holt again, despite his passivity in there. The guy oozes class and that's extremely rare in boxing ATM.
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N Addition to that, he's Been DROPPED a Total of 8 Times....


REED:hammert:

 

Bradley was great last night. Getting up from that KD and fighting the way he did,was impressive in itself. I'm definatley a fan of his now. Hell,even with the two KD's, it still wasn't even a remotely close fight. Holt got completely out boxed most of the fight. I may have given him one round other than the first and 12th,and that was because Bradley took the round off.

Great win for Bradley. Outside of having KO power that he can pull out of his ass,Holt is pretty stationary for the most part.

 

Looks like the WBC just gave Bradley a 15 day ultimatium to defend against Devon Alexander. How do you guys see that fight playing out?

 

Alexander is a very tough fight for Bradley. I don't think Bradley is a very big fav in that 1. Both have fast hands, are good boxers and don't have much power.

 

Not that I give a shit but where is Junior Witter in all of this. When he lost, they just about had a done deal for a rematch against Bradley then it fell through.

 

there was talk of Witter-Alexander in an eliminator....but seems as though Alexander is gonna get his shot without having to negotiate that particuarly tricky obstacle....

....Witter is getting on, but he is a threat to these guys....they aren't exceptional....he is awkward, quick and can bang. Problem has always had trouble getting fights....and without the title he once again finds himself in the 'who needs him?' club as Ian Darke likes to put it

 

Just saw this thread.

Can't believe the concensus. Holt is a decent, but flawed fighter. Very dangerous due to his power and his ability to land at least a few times a fight with potential KO shots. Not great workrate, but not awful. Defense not so good. All in all though, Holt is a B+ fighter, and certainly has at least a good chance at beating almost anybody.

And Bradley dispensed with him, really without much trouble. YES - he got dropped, for real, 2 times. But despite the first punch being a true BOMB, Bradley was not only not badly hurt.... he actually had his head together enough to do what many fighters NEVER do... he takes a knee, he takes his count, clears his head and is back up and basically 100%.

I thought Holt won maybe 3 rounds, obviously the knockdown rounds. That's it. If Bradley was a "safer" fighter, he probably wins all 12. But instead, he is constantly aggressive, willing to trade, he boxes well, he is in ASTONISHING shape. No one will ever outlast the guy. When he loses, it will be by stoppage. I think his conditioning actually helps him to recover from punches faster, since for a second he was out on his feet in the first knockdown, and his recovery was superhuman.

People are undervaluing Timothy Bradley. He is very young, and is still getting better. He has his head on straight, and works his ass off 365 days a year. He comes to fight, and he puts the squeeze on. He has decent power, and his defense is good due to his elusiveness.

He is one of those guys that may last longer than you think at the top. I think other than Manny, no one is a lock to beat Bradley at 140.

I can't see how anyone could diss Bradley after this fight, or how in the world anyone could think Holt is "better" in any department at all except one-punch power.

 

I undervalue him. I liked him more before this fight and agree with REED that his stock went down.

He fought well and deserved the win, but Holt's inactivity sucked it up. The Holt that beat Hlatsch beats Bradley on points.

You say no one is a lock against Bradley; I say Bradley is a lock against no one. He's sort of like a poor-man's Juan Diaz...a volume puncher with little else.

 

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Fair enough.

But I'll bore you a bit with the cliche "Holt was inactive BECAUSE Bradley was so active" response. What you're saying is like me saying "The Bradley who KO'd Witter KOs Holt". The bottom line is that Holt was ineffective going backward/countering all night, and that happened because Bradley was moving forward and staying active.

I agree that Bradley is a lock against very few. He is still relatively unproven at a high level. But he hits harder than Juan Diaz, and he recovers very well when he gets tagged unlike Juan Diaz.

 

I'd like to see that version of Bradley again.

 

just to be a smart-arse....Bradley beat Witter on points...he almost had him out of there but Witter was saved by the bell

 

I think Kendall Holt would knock the Baby Cow out.

 

and he'd empty diaz's tear ducts

 

Has it occurred to anyone that Holt's mistakes in the fight were due, at least in part, to what Bradley was doing?

Keep in mind that Holt prior to Saturday had never lost a decision. So it's not like he's known for not letting his hands go.

Bradley just had an answer for everything Holt was trying to do. After the first round, Holt barely landed another left hook the whole fight.

And why wasn't he jabbing more? Because he was being out-jabbed by Bradley !!!

I think this is very much a case of Holt getting too much shit and Bradley not getting enough credit.

Holt was just befuddled in there. It's as simple as that.

And as far as technical skills and defense, Bradley is far superior to Holt.

The fight I'd like to see is Torres vs. Bradley.