Khan to challenge for world title

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  1. TKO

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    Nice one. He will win this one, Rees was an over-achiever and was never really world class, where as Witter was handling him easily before taking his foot off the gas and nearly throwing it away. Khan is a step above those guys imo and should win quite comfortably on points.
     
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    I am far from convince Khan can go the distance against a quality fighter, If Khan does not get the KO I think he could very well lose a decision.
     
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    na mate hes got this one
     
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    More than likely he will get the W but it aint cut and dry
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    he will have some scares along the way, but Khan is a million times better than Rees, and won't relax if he is ahead like Witter did, Roach won't let him. I see him winning a comfortable UD
     
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    Nobody has ever beaten Kotelnik comfortably, and Khan sure ain´t starting that tradition.
     
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    Yes he is.
     
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    adamiw Undisputed Champion

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    .....i look at the lightweight top 10 and struggle for names that i'd pick Amir to beat....moving up could be a smart move despite his size being one of his main assets as a 135lber

    I've always liked Kotelnik....Witter came into all sorts of criticism for squeaking past the Ukrainian, but i just felt that he came up against a good fighter......and since then, that W (albeit a hotly contested one) will go down as one of Junior's best.

    But i think style wise, Amir's got the perfect style to beat Kotelnik, that is why it is such a clever piece of match making.....looking at all the other world champions from 135-140, Kotelnik is the only one i'd pick Amir to beat.

    Amir's speed and work rate will be too much.....Kotelnik moves forward slowly....he has good skills and decent handspeed of his own....but Amir's jab is longer and footspeed much faster

    As is the case with every one of Amir's fights, even the most feather-fisted of fighters, has the puncher's chance....fighting Amir is like winning a contest where you can be Julian Jackson for the day.

    It is worth noting that moving up in weight has helped fighter's punch resistance in the past.....Diego Corrales was able to take shots from Freitas and Castillo in a way that was unimaginable when watching him getting put on his pants time and time again at 130.......i'm not saying that will be the case here, but Amir is tall for 135, so those extra few pounds could help toughen him a wee bit
     
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    Oh, because of that one eyed midget he beat last month?
    Victor Ortiz got screwed in this deal, if Warren really had some nuts on him he would let them fight each other with the winner securing a shot for the belt.
    Kahn is a fake still.
     
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    No he ain't. He is real.
     
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    i can't recall Corrales going down ever at 130 except against PBF. he took hellacious shots in his title winning effort at 130 against Robert Garcia.

    in fact, aside from his fight with PBF, i think all of his knock-downs came at 135 and above. so i'm not so sure he's a good example.

    i think in the case of Freitas, he just wasn't the same puncher after moving up from 130. who did he knock out at 135? Barrios at 130 was his last significant knock-out.

    but i do think you have a point in that if a fighter is killing himself to make weight, it does improve his punch resistence when he moves up to a weight class that is closer to his natural weight.

    i'm hard-pressed to think of a good example right now - maybe Cotto? although aside from being seriously hurt by Corley and Torres, he showed some pretty good whiskers at 140. He and Margarito are guys you hurt by hitting them on the temple or the head. Neither one seems to have any problem taking it on the chin (unless Cotto's fighting Mr. Brick-hand of course).

    Hatton's chin certainly didn't improve as a result of his moving to 147.

    I think the best example has to be Pacquiao who seemed more vulnerable at 126 and below but seems able to take just about any shot at 130 and above.
     
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    This is a great fight Kotelnik is a technically sound boxer/puncher with experience and skill. Khan is a great offensive fighter with speed and power. I can't wait for this fight.
     
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    ....firstly, Corrales was sent to the canvas in both fights at 130 with Casamayor

    .....secondly, i didn't make out that moving up in weight cures punch-resistance issues in every case.....sometimes it can be of benefit, and i maintain that the Corrales example is a sound one
     
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    Khan has no power. He is not featherfisted, but his power is average at best on world level.

    Did you see him hit old little Barrera with flush shot after shot and absolutely fuck all happen?

    But like adam said, this is one guy between 135 and 140 that Khan has a good chance to beat.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if Khan got stretched.
     
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    Khan sucks.:shit:
     
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    This is a fight that Khan might be able to work his way to victory in, but Kotelnik is a top drawer counter puncher, and could just as easily pick Khan off as he flurries.

    MTF
     
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    I'm pretty sure he fought Casa at 135, no? my bad. you're right. those fights were at 130.nontheless, Corrales' tendency to visit the canvas in no way dissipated following his move to 135.
     
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    barrera to kotelnik, what a gamble...but there's no real easy route to a title which will allow warren to satisfy khan's purse requirements, put it on PPV etc...on the surface its not a bad style match-up for khan but its 140, kotelnik is durable a bit predictable but I still fancy him to stop Khan, all he needs is one good moment
     
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    Khan will get blasted. He get's knocked out by a nobody two fights ago, wins a shady fight with MAB that should have been stopped in the first freaking round cause MAB had a damn axe wound on his face and was blind. So he moves up to fight a solid guy in Kotelnik? He's getting stopped again.
     
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    Kotelnik vs Khan

    I see Khan being way too quick and accurate with his shots to be really troubled by Kotelnik. Kotelnik wont be able go the distants against him, with Roach in his corner he is a much smarter fighter.:flip:
     
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    No-one stops Kotelnik; even Witter had a very tough night with the cat. Amir will be eating sharp, hard counters all night long. He needs to deal with those if he is to prevail and I'd be staggered if Khan is able to stop Andreas.

    MTF
     
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    I like Khan here as well, for the reasons you described.
     
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    Yes very conclusive evidence, too. Headbutts an old man blind, carries him for five rounds and gets a TD. So much smarter. :pray::pray:
     
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    Anyone who thinks Trashkhan is stopping Kotelnik is off their nut.

    Khan can't punch, he couldn't even hurt Barrera with however many flush shots he landed.
     
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    It's funny, but I don't recall Kotelnik ever being described as having anything less than a very solid beard. If some very good light welters couldn't stop him then I can't for the life of me seeing how Khan is going to. Freddie in his corner or not

    MTF
     
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    Khan is so bad, I honestly think I could KO him in a scuffle.
     
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    If you were in a scuffle, you'd be doing something other than punching with your hands.
     
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    He won't stop Kotelnik, the dude is tough, but he can certainly box his ears off, as Witter was doing until he started taking his foot off the gas. It will be alot easier than people are saying on here, yet I bet you Amir will get no credit, ah well.
     

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