BOB ARUM SAYS COTTO IS NEXT FOR PACQUIAO

If Floyd thinks he would get the lion's share of the purse with Pac, the fight will NEVER happen.

Who needs who? Pac certainly doesn't need Mayweather. He's got JMM, Mosley, Cotto to fight then he can ride off into the sunset a VERY rich man.

Floyd is the only one needing the money here. Wait until the PPV numbers come out for Hatton vs Pac and compare them with Floyd vs Hatton. Then we will see who the bigger draw is.

 

Correction..."Dancing with the Stars" is a Way for "D-List" Celebrities to INCREASE their Star Power...Check the WEEKLY RATINGS for the Show & Get Back to REED...The Fact that U CAN'T Acknowledge how this HELPED Floyd is just Fuuuuuuuuuuurther Proof of your INCAPABILITY of Speaking Objectively about him...

"Dela Hoya-Mayweather 24/7" was the LITMUS Test for Future Shows...Like it or Not, Floyd's "Bad Guy", "Asshole" Persona SOLD It...& the CONTRAST of that Persona w/Hatton's "British EVERYMAN" Bit is what SOLD "Mayweather-Hatton 24/7"...But Make NO Mistake about it, Floyd was the KEY to the Show, which was a KEY Component of SELLING the Fight Itself...

Shit, even Hatton's MOTHER ADMITTED that She had NEVER Wanted her Son to WHIP Somebody MORE than She Wanted him to Whip Floyd...Did the British Fans Chant as NEGATIVELY to Pac as they Did Floyd, when he Visited England???...NO, in Fact, Pac & Hatton had a FRIENDLY Game of Darts...Whereas Floyd Flipped the Bird & Grabbed his Nuts while Overseas...

Is Floyd as BIG a Draw as he Thinks???...HELLtotheNO!!!...But he's Got MORE Drawing Power than Cats like YOU Wanna Acknowledge, Muzse...CONTROVERSY SELLS...Like it or Not, Floyd is CONTROVERSIAL...How Many BOXING Fans R INDIFFERENT about Him???....



REED:hammert:

 

I like how you missed out that Floyd done double the amount of PPV buys with Oscar then Manny did.

 

Well that is the fight that made Pac a true star. Compare both of thier last fights, which happen to be against the same fucking guy, Hatton.

Then get back to me. It's only fair to compare the most recent fight of both and even better it's against the same dude!

 

name the last person to get bigger after leaving "dancing with the stars." Don't worry, I'll wait.

Thinking logically...the 10 year old girls and housewives who mostly watch that show, do you HONESTLY think they lined up to buy the PPV? That's just common sense, not the pseudo fandom stuff you're selling. Come on man, you know better than this.

Better yet...let's say that same demographic saw Floyd on the show then tuned into 24/7...two completely different people. Makes Floyd seem ultra phony wouldn't you say?

It's all surface material.

Yes, controversy sells but it also gets OLD. Even Ali's taunts got tired and people tuned him out. Mayorga is notorious for talking shit as well as clowns like Edison Miranda. It's a schtick which gets old just like DLH's "nice guy" bullshit and george Foreman's (as noted previously).

If you want to take a lowbrow view of what "sells" have at it. the bottom line is, Mayweather-hatton was attractive based on what each brought to the table as fighters, not what came out of Floyd's mouth.

 

I know they were against the same guy. Lets see if Floyd does more PPV against JMM then Manny did. If he does then he sold more PPV's against Oscar and Juan.

 

That is weak. Manny is just NOW at the peak of his pupularity. You can't compare old fights from when he wasn't as popular.

There is not a more fair comparison than Floyd vs Hatton and Pac vs Hatton. That is the telling fight. Both came off wins over Oscar which made them the stars they are and then both fought Hatton. A comparison does not get more fair and telling that this.

 

this is simply posturing - making it clear to PBF that Pacquiao has plenty of options that don't include PBF. and that will not come at the expense of his P4P #1 title.

by the way, if anyone tries to make the claim that a win over JMM puts PBF back in the number 1 slot, they'd better spit PBF's cock out of their mouth and come up for a breath of air.

147 pounders who take on light-weights cannot and never will be P4P #1 fighters.

 

Didn't Duran only have one fight at welterweight before fighting Leonard the first time?

 

Manny has options that don't include Floyd. BS Pac-Floyd has to happen if Floyd beats JMM.

 

"Wait" no More, Homey...

Mario Lopez & Drew Lachey R 2 Guys that IMMEDIATELY Come to Mind, that IMPROVED their Mainstream Notoriety AFTER Being on "Dancing w/the Stars"...Not to Mention the DANCERS THEMSELVES, like Julianne Hough, who Parlayed her "Dancing with the Stars" Shine into an Award Winning Country Album AND a Juicy Fruit Commercial that's on T.V. CONSTANTLY...Those 10 Year Olds & Housewives have FATHERS & HUSBANDS, Muzse...

U & REED Could Go Back & Forth All Day, but to Act like "Dancing w/the Stars" had an INCONSEQUENTIAL Impact on Floyd's Mainstream GROWTH is INCORRECT...


REED:hammert:

 

did Duran spend 90% of his career as a feather-weight?

but to answer your question, yes. He fought Palomino. JMM's not fighting anyone. He's going straight to 147 or whatever the hell catch-weight PBF agreed to that still guarantees him a dramatic size advantage.

what's your point? do you imagine JMM will go on to fight at 154 and 160 after he's finished at 147?

it's a good point though. JMM is not fighting anyone at 147 begore facing PBF. if he did, it would expose how greatly under-sized he is for the weight-class, assuming it were against someone the likes of Palomino.

I hope JMM beats PBF. PBF's not going to fight Pacquiao in any case, and he doesn't deserve to either.

 

He had some I recall he beat Monroe Brooks at 147, Jimmy Heair, Zeffie Gonzales and Carlos Palomino, and I think beat Wellington Wheatley so he worked and fought his way into condition at 147.

Cotto may be too much for Manny, I don't know, right now I'd make it a pick 'em.

 

Both fighters have other options...Mosley/Cotto...the difference is that Mayweather has not show a willingness to go after those fight in years pass...while Manny Pacquiao seem to not give a fuck, he would fight Cotto/Mosley at 147...


yes Pac vs. May is the fight that needs to be made...but Mayweather will have to live with 50-50 split....I think IMHO Pac can live with that....Mayweather? I'm not sure...

 

That was Hattons first PPV bout. Before that he was virtually unknown. Fighting Mayweather made Hatton a bigger name.

 

LOL at Manny does not give a fuck. If he didn't give a fuck he would have had the Marquez trilogy already. Pac just went the same route as Mayweather, De la Hoya followed by Hatton. According to most Mayweather is a scared bitch for taking this route but Pac is superhuman for doing it. Pac is just as much about Money as Floyd is. Mayweather knows Manny is the biggest fight out there for him so he will make it happen. Hes made plenty of sacrifices at the negotiating table to make fights happen.

 

It sounds like Arum is gonna be going after the lion share in Mannys favor.. Which ever fighter believes they deserve more then a 50/50 split in this fight is one who is gonna stop this fight from happening and they are the one to blame in my opinion... I don't care what anybody say 50/50 is what it should be..

 

Mayweather jump from 135 to 147 DESTROYED DLH...jump down to 140 DESTROYED HATTON. He did not do like Mayweather and made Hatton come down, he went down to Hatton best weight and fucked him up...


Yes Pacquiao gets more credit for doing the same thing because he is the much smaller fighters....Mayweather moved up slowly...135...140...147...only at 135 fighting the TOP fighter..NOT the linear fighter but the best in the division. Bumdomir might have won a title..but he wasnt the best..MARGARITO was...


Somehow Mayweather wasn't able to set at teh negotiating table and make...fight vs. Margarito,Mosley,Cotto,Williams,Cintron,Clottey or any other top Welterweight happen....YEAH I KNOW...BRING UP THE BIG MONEY fight vs. DE LA HOYA>..:boohoo:

 

Margarito was the best based on que exactly? If Margarito was coming off of the Cotto win i would have agreed.

Baldomir was the undisputed champ.

Fact numero uno Mayweather beat De la Hoya at 154 a better weight for Oscar. Floyd wanted the fight at 147 but Oscar said no.

Fact numero dos Hatton wanted the fight at 147 because if he lost he still had his belt at 140 if he lost.

As for Mosley his tooth was hurting too bad when Floyd sat at the negotiating table.

Cotto....... Top Rank wouldn't put him anywhere near Floyd at 140.

Williams the guy everybody avoids. Lets call Floyd out for this but nobody else.

Cintron/Clottey :notallthere:::

 

Actually Roach said he didn't want to match up with Mosley. He said the fact that Mosley easily goes up in the 154lb range that he's a bit too big for Manny. Don't know if he's worried about Mosley or not, but I'm pretty sure this fight was after Mosley demolished Margarito.

You love to mention this don't you? I'll tell you this a thousand times only because you'll keep mentioning it again right after I've told you but Shane had already stated even before the 2nd Vargas fight that he intended to take a break and go on vacation with his family afterwards.

 

Margarito was also the guy nobody wanted to fight...nobody named Mayweather, because he fought Clottey, Williams and Cotto, yes he lose to Williams but he still fought him.

Mayweather WAS NEVER GOING to fight Margarito even though he was the best and most consisted fighter in the division. Bumdomir being linear was a joke and a lucky break for Mayweather.

Had Margarito been the linear Champion you and i know he would have avoided going into that division. SHIT Mayweather maybe probably retired just so he didn't have to fight Cotto,Mosley or Margarito.

Cotto beat Mosley at 147 okay good one down...Mosley has a lose I don't need to fight him that prove he is not in my league...Margarito pounds Cotto BAM and DAMN Cotto is a goner i don't need to fight him not in my level...but now i have this big fucking mexican that has been calling me out for years..and now he is the man at 147...I GOTTA stay RETIRE...BAM Mosley my nigga get that mexican out of Mayweather Drive.....but you ain't gonna make any money of "MONEY" cause you got beat by that boy in MSG.....

Ohh yeah Pretty boy..Money May..Is coming...to a ring near you Motherfucker...yeah..yeah..My competition have defeated themselves..flawless victory for Money May...yup..U now who i be mosta gotten my mommas looking they call me Pretty Boy..with "Money" problems....

 

Meh. Im not interested in Mosley.

 

Add me too.

 

Cotto's been successful, although with bumps in the road, against the lefties he's faced. Corley hurt him back at 140, and Judah stunned him (although he stuns most guys he faces). Cotto fought terrific against Quintana. I think a lot depends precisely on how accurate Pacquiao can catch Cotto coming in, and of course, timing. I mean of course he can do damage if he catches him with a perfectly placed and timed shot, but that's usually the case in boxing. The trouble is landing that shot.

Pacquiao likes to throw that super-quick laser left hand through the guard, and then slide out to his right. I worried about him running into a DLH left hook when he did that, but DLH was too slow to hit Manny, who ducked those left hooks. If he does this against Cotto, I suspect Cotto will throw his money punch, that left hook downstairs. Pacquiao has been stopped (Singsurar) or hurt (Morales 1) to the body in the past, but seems to have taken them well in recent fights, when Diaz and Hatton have gone to his body.

Pac would probably have to use a lot of movement and fight a disciplined bout against Cotto. Cotto seems to swell and cut quite a bit, so maybe this could hurt him.

I think it's a risky fight for Pacquiao, and maybe Arum is just using it as a negotiating ploy. Or since Cotto may be on the outs with Top Rank, since he's been publicly unhappy with Arum's support of Margarito, maybe Arum is cashing out on Cotto. That suggests that Arum's very confident with Pacquiao's chances against Cotto. Does he know something that we don't?