Lyoto Machida

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  1. Trplsec

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    Absolutely amazing. Evans was never even a threat. Machida is on a completely different level.

    It was fantastic to see him equally dangerous while moving forward and pressing the action. Evans had no idea what hit him. As quick as Evans is, Machida was faster.

    This obviously points to a Rampage-Machida fight, but I seriously don't think Rampage has a shot. For that matter, I am pressed to pick a current 205 pounder that gives Machida a fight.

    Hats off to those members of the Machida Bandwagon.
     
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    Fuck That...

    Hats Off to YOU For STARTING the Machida Bandwagon Waaaaaaaaaay BEFORE it was Fashionable, Dog...REED has Yet to See the Fight, but WAXING Rashad Evans Says ALOT...

    agREED that Rampage DOESN'T Have a Shot...Rampage ISN'T a DISCIPLINED Enough Fighter to Beat Machida & He'll End Up Getting OUTCLASSED for 5 Rounds or STOPPED...

    Any LINKS or HIGHLIGHTS of this Shit???...


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    How about Anderson vs. Machida?
     
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    According to Yahoo Sports, they have the SAME Manager, R VERY Good Friends & Swore they'd NEVER Fight Each Other...But that's a Fight that NEEDS to Happen...

    If Silva's Getting BORED w/MMA Due to Lack of "Challenges", Step Up to the Plate & Face the New Champ....


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  6. Azazel

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    Machida is obviously a very talendted fighter and is without a doubt a top 5 lb4lber imo. But, I wouldn't jump the gun as you guy's and say Rampage got no shot. Machida fights with his hands low something he can get away with because of his great reflexes and elusiveness. But also because his opponents let him time to think and throws one puch at a time, something Rampage won't do. Plus, we know he got a strong chin and won't be hurt by every shot like Evans was ( Rashad chin seemed hella suspect, borderline glass ).
     
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    I think Machida will ulitimately be better than Silva, but needs the wins against top guys.

    I think Machida is terrific, and might be unstoppable, but if someone does want to beat him, they should have a similar style, but with a different art other than Karate, that person would be even better. I have always thought Karate was the least effective art out there. I still do.
     
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    Machida KO rd 1 against Rampage.

    Jackson doesn't know how to fight going backwards, so he'll come forward and try to press Machida and that will be his undoing. Lyoto will pick him apart with strikes. It is a maater of how much Jackson will take. He only has a puncher's chance.

    Rashad Sugar Evans had trouble on how PATIENT Machida was. He WAITED for the proper moment to DRAW out Rashad into the middle of the ring, stop his movement and be able to be TIMED coming in. Very few boos while that was taking place, a sign of how sophisticated UFC fans are becoming.

    Same result with Spider Silva and Griffin. KO rd 1.
     
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    Rampage is way better than Evans. Rampage is by far the best stand up fighter he would have fought.
     
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    page wont beat machida. i has absolutely nothing on him.
     
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    Rampage always has a puncher's chance, but i can't see him closing the distance in order to get to Machida. He's too slow.

    Machida put on a masterclass....Rashad maybe landed one or two punches...but it was as close to perfect as you are going to get. He has star quality and a style of his own.

    Be interesting to see how they match him....at light heavy i find it hard to think of anyone who'll test him.....because of Machida's stand up style i was hoping Silva wouldn't have such a problem jumping up to face him...but to hear that they are too good friends to fight is a real shame.
     
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    Rampage will at least test Machidas chin. Evans' stand up skills are overated. Rampage has the best boxing skills in the UFC right now.
     
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    from last nights fight i think its obvious that machida is the best technical boxer at light heavy, he's definitely the fastest and he'll match page for power.

    evan's striking skills were exposed last night and it wasnt the fact that he lost. dude's even more cautious than machida. all that bobbing and weaving, faking and bouncing around without throwing any punches doesnt make any sense.
     
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    I hate Evans, and last night was a prime example why. He's just an annoying fighter. A lot of posturing and bullshit, but never even tried to mount any offense.

    I know it's usually illogical to say this, but I think Rashad having been undefeated must be partly luck.

    Having said that though, Machida IS superb, no doubt. Just a brilliant fighter and technician, so quick, so accurate, so thoughtful in the ring.

    And machida, when he realised all Evans was going to do was TURTLE, he actually thought fuck it, and brought the fight to Evans, but did so cleverly, and barely got caught at all.

    Like you said, it just looked like 2 different levels of fighters in there. Evans didn't look like he stood a chance.

    Machida is for real. Funny thing is, Karate is such a rigid and impractical fighting art, I'm with Godfather on that. It's one of the worst MAs in a practical sense, alongside Tae Kwon Do, Wing Tsun etc.

    Machida's fighting excellence has nothing to do with Karate, he is just a brilliant fighter.
     
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    Man, that first right hand that Machida hurt Evans with was a thing of beauty. Timed perfectly and delivered right on the button. And make no mistake about it, Lyoto is a hell of a finisher. There was no way Rashad was going to recover.

    And, I'll say it again, Rampage will be completely out-classed. Machida will make him look stupid and counter him silly. I can easily see Machida landing 150 leg kicks and making Rampage cry.
     
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    what about Machida vs. Shogun?
     
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    Usually I dont do bandwagons but after seeing Machida fight months ago I was in!:bears:

    I knew this guy was the real deal his style is awesome. I was surprised he KOed Evans I thought he would simply beat him up for the entire fight.

    Rampage is cool but he hasn't a snow balls chance against Lyoto. In fact I can't see anyone at 205 beating him.

    Maybe this is the fight to bring Silva back to his best form - now that would be a real pickem.
     
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    against a prime shogun its 50/50.. the current shogun gets ko'd.
     
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    against a prime shogun its 50/50.. the current shogun gets ko'd.
     
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    I think he has the best shot. He was super aggressive prior to the 2 knee surgeries. If he can get into superb shape, get inside, and take him down...
     
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    I never asked to be on the bandwagon, but I might have well been. :lol: But anyway, The Dragon is for real or as BTG puts it "He's the truth":kidcool: If Shogun can come close to his skill before surgery it could make for an interesting fight. The coolest thing is even though I don't think anyone can beat him at 205, it definitely puts forth some great fan friendly fights.

    Machida/Griffen - fun to watch and could be very bloody
    Machida/Rampage - interesting matchup and someone is going to sleep
    Machida/Shogun - fan friendly to say the least
    Machida/Anderson Silva - one of the best MMA matchups of all time if they agree to fight

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    Agreed. I think that's one aspect that hasn't been really brought up.

    Machida is an excellent fighter, he's proven as much. Patient and smart, yet deadly when he unleashes.

    I would favor him against most guys at this stage as well, but to say he's going to go years undefeated is certainly optimistic. (especially in MMA where things can change drastically at any time)

    I would like to see him in with a very skilled striker. This is not to mean Rashad doesn't have skills, but a lot of his wins resemble Liddell's. Move around, learn how to stuff a takedown and wait to land a counter-punch haymaker.
     
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    I like Forrest, he should never set foot in the same arena as Lyoto.
    Rampage is in for the biggest whooping of his career.
    Shogun before his ahem "op" looked good - but he is awful since he returned and gets waxed by Machida. Remember the coleman fight.

    Lyoto V Anderson - now we are talking. Silva is bored beating up guys a middle weight he needs a challenge and they do not come much bigger than Lyoto Machida. Two of my favorites and a real pickem.

    Lets get it on :mj:
     
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    Machida and Silva are friends and will not fight. Anderson has said this on a few occasions. Silva considers 205 to be Lyoto's division.
     
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    I loved seeing that cocky bastard Rashad get put to sleep. Lyoto is the man. In the first round I was a little afraid that it was turning into the most boring fight in the history of MMA. Thank god Machida picked it up in round 2.

    Shitty card overall though I must say.
     
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    I don't think Rampage has a chance in hell against Lyoto. Rampage, in my opinion, is starting his decline, and in MMA, once you hit your decline, you lose it all pretty quick. Look at how quickly guys like Liddell, Wandy, Hughes, etc, have fallen off. I'm not saying Rampage is washed up at the level of guys like Liddell, but I don't think he's that far off.

    Shogun, since he's arrived in the UFC, has looked terrible. Beaten by Forrest, looked awful beating Coleman, and he looked good KOing Liddell, but Liddell is getting beat by everyone these days.

    Griffin is an interesting pick, but I just can't see him beating Machida. To beat Machida, you're gonna have to hurt him, and Griffin just doesn't have the power in his punches.

    Wandy and Chuck would end up in a Morgue against Machida, so I won't even consider those two.

    I think a rematch with Rich Franklin will be a possibility when Franklin beats Wandy. Franklin is still a Dana White favorite, and a better fighter than a lot of people want to give him credit for. If he beats Wandy, I see him being bumped up to #1 Contender to face the winner of Rampage\Machida.

    And while it's way too early for this fight, if he keeps improving, Jon Jones could present an interesting challenge. He has an unorthodox style, and that may be just the thing needed to beat Machida. Jones clearly isn't ready now, but give him a year or 2 and let's see what happens.

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    I agree with what you said about Rampage. He looked horrible against Jardine. If he fights anything like that against Machida, he lose and lose badly. Shogun is a bit of a wild card. A lot of people seem to forget that he underwent some major surgeries that most likely hurt both of his camps against Griffin and Coleman. We'll see what happens in his next fight, I think it will give a better indication of where he is than the Liddell fight. Griffin has outright said that Lyoto would make him look like a fool.
     

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