Hatton to be trained by Roach

It was a mugging, it didn't even resemble a boxing match ::

 

Bobby Chacon.

Where you are being dense is that you think Hatton needs to improve. He doesn't. He just needs things to turn out differently. He just got through beating the shit out of a very decent boxer in Malignaggi.

I'm sure Lennox is glad he listened to your wise advice. I'm sure all of the guys I listed are glad they turned in the gloves after getting their asses handed to them in the ring.

It's okay if you want to project how you would react to what Hatton has been through. I just take issue with you and others thinking he has no chance. That's just pathetic and wrong as history has showed many times.

Oh...and you don't need to lie about Pacquiao looking noticeably smaller. He didn't.

And it's pretty funny that the guy who goes to the trouble of hitting the all caps key every 5 seconds accuses someone else of being attention starved. Come on.

 

What an absolute load of fucking bullshit

MTF

 

More pure bullshit

MTF

 

Did U Actually SEE Pac vs. Hatton, Dude???...Hatton was QUITE CLEARLY the LARGER Man in the Fight AND he Fought That Way...So According to YOU & your Infinite Boxing Wisdom, a Victory Over PAULfuckingMALIGNAGGI is Some Sort of Indicator that Hatton Can BEAT Manny Pac???...We Now KNOW that Hatton CANNOT Trade & Brawl w/Pac, so YOU REALLY Think he Can OUTBOX Pac????....

It's NOT Like Pac Caught Hatton w/a "Lucky" Shot or Anything...He WHIPPED his Ass for EVERY BIT Of Both Rounds...The "Best" Hatton Could Do is PROLONG the Inevitable, by Fighting More TIMIDLY...But there's Absolutely NO CHANCE in Hell that he'd Beat Manny Pac @ ANY Weight...

As for the Typing, that's Something REED has Done for about 15 YEARS Now...REED Does it Because HE Likes the Way HIS OWN Posts Look...NEVER has REED Typed in this Fashion to "Stand Out" or Appease ANYBODY Else...NEVER...As for YOU, You TapDance Around the Site Awaiting Popular Opinions to Formulate, so U Can DISagree w/them (No Matter HOWfuckingLUDICROUS Your Stance May B), Because U're INCAPABLE of Differentiating Yourself Any Other Way...

Basically, U're a Contrarian BULLSHIT Artist....

REED:boohoo:

 

Why don't you point out where I was ludicrous in this thread, Reed. Or any thread. You are projecting a quitter attitude to a guy who probably doesn't have one. You aren't the former world champ, he is. I listed a shitload of guys who have come back from bad KO losses to go on to have great success and/or beat their conqueror. According you and the others with that attitude, that should be impossible.

You're just being a douchebag. So point out where my contrarianism is ludicrous. And you might as well quote mE since you seem incapable of understanding my point.

 

AGAIN, Hatton's been KO'ed TWICE by THE BEST Guys he's EVER Faced, Dog...He's a HABITUAL Drinker & DRASTIC Weight Gainer who's also a Chronic BLEEDER & Aggressive Almost to a FAULT...

Yet YOU Speak as if Hatton REALLY has a Chance of AVENGING Those Losses???:dunno:...Not Sure WHAT Lifetime YOU Have in Mind, but N the CURRENT 1, Hatton will NEVER Beat Floyd Mayweather OR Manny Pac...The Mere Fact that U Give Hatton even a REMOTE Chance of Avenging Losses to Either of those Cats IS LUDICROUS!!!!...

It's NOT about Being a "Quitter", it's about RECOGNIZING when U're In OVER your Head...Simply Put, Ricky Hatton CANNOT Beat Floyd Mayweather OR Manny Pac...That DOESN'T Diminish what Hatton has Accomplished, but it's a Fucking FACT...



REED:boohoo:

 

I do think Hatton can beat either one of them. Obviously he's not the pick, but shit happens in boxing. And Tszyu was very close to as good as pacquiao or mayweather. Hell, Hatton is better than JL Castillo and Castillo beat Floyd. Hatton is also better than other fighters pacq has already lost to.

Let's say you are right...Hatton has no chance to beat Pacq or Floyd...he can still go on to have a great career from here on out...wait and fight the conqueror of either of them. Unify 140. Pick off a 147 lb champ. Whatever. You quitters would have Forrest quitting after Mayorga, or any of the guys I mentioned quitting after getting stretched.

As I said, find my ludicrous posts. I'll wait.

 

Riiight:boohoo:...

Tszyu, Coming Off of a 2 YEAR LAYOFF was "As Good" as Pac or Floyd???....Sure, Hatton was "Better" than the FADED, 140 lb Version of Castillo that he Fought...But Just as Hatton Fans CLING to Floyd NOT Facing him @ 140, Castillo Fans can CLING to Hatton NOT Facing him @ 135....

Floyd BEAT Castillo, F.Y.I...TWICE, No Less...

What Makes YOUR Post LUDICROUS is that U're Conveniently IGNORING Hatton's Out-of-Ring Habits (the DRINKING, the FACT that he Hovers Near 200lbs After EVERY Bout), his STYLE of Fighting (which has NEVER Lended itself to a LENGTHY Reign as a Boxing ELITIST) & THE FACT that he Lost to THE BEST Guys he's EVER Faced...DECISIVELY!!!!...

As GOOD as Tszyu Admittedly was, he was NEVER on Par w/the Version of Manny Pac (OR FLOYD) that Hatton Faced...The Mere Fact that U're THE ONLY Guy on this Site that "Thinks" Hatton could AVENGE Defeats to Floyd & Pac is ILLUSTRATING REED's Point...U're Either the Biggest DUMBFUCK in the History of Boxing Messageboards OR a Contrarian BULLSHIT Artist...

Take your Pick...



REED:boohoo:

 

Gosh damn, Reed, you're so fucking smart you must be rolling in the money you win betting on boxing. Back up your bullshit and bet on the dominant winner in every rematch. Tell me how that works for you.

And, btw, when you quote, you are supposed to quote, not type something different.

And your focus on Hatton DECISIVELY losing to the best two fighters he's faced is stupid. He's lost two fights to P4P #1 guys. Guess what, Einstein, that is what is 'supposed' to happen. Happened to Bernard Hopkins, too, btw.

 

So if Hatton is SUPPOSED to LOSE to P4P # 1 Guys, WHYthefuck Would YOU Give him Even a REMOTE Chance of AVENGING Those DECISIVE Losses???...BOTH Guys were Considered BETTER than Hatton PRIOR to the Fights; BOTH Guys Ended Up DOMINATING Hatton...

Why Don't YOU Elaborate on ANY Possible Chance Hatton has of REVERSING those EMBARRASING Losses???...



REED:hammert:

 

Obviously not, and you make good points about why Hatton should retire, but honestly I don't feel that should be an option for a guy so young and who can still have a respectable career and make a lot more money. Sure I don't think he's ever going to beat Pac or Floyd, but their are a lot of other fighter out there he'd still matchup well against. Juan Diaz wouldn't beat Pac or Floyd either, so should his only option be retirement?

Hatton lost to 2 great fighters, they're his only loses, shit he ain't even at stepping stone status yet. IMO I think retirement would be premature and he'd probably be coming back 6 years later if he did to make some more money. Therefore, I say get the money while he's young so he doesn't come back later.

 

What a complete load of bullshit. Hatton stands no realistic chance of beating Pacman or Floyd.

And Tszyu wasn't even close to being as good as either one. He is the most overrated fighter of recent times, alongside Tito.

You talk utter tripe.

Hilarious that after Hatton being BRUTALLY KO'd in round 2, and looking like an inept amateur, and like he doesn't belong in the same ring as Pacman, you think he would have a chance in a rematch ::

 

if I was hatton's manager or family member then I'd suggest he should retire.

he obviously has little resistance to punches at this point. he was knocked out by mayweather jr, seriously buzzed by lazcano and then severely hurt by the first punch he was hit with against pacquiao and then knocked out shortly thereafter. in hindsight it appears that if he had fought a decent guy who could crack instead of malignaggi that he might not have even made it to the pacquiao payday.

sure he could still make some more loot and possibly beat some mid level fighters, but he's already quite affluent so is it really worth taking another brutal loss?

 

Hatton has enough left in the tank to cash out. Stay in England and become a gatekeeper.

He won't ever be back in the P4P leagues but he can still make some good money in the short term.

 

Oscar DeLa Hoya used to do the same thing. Every time he lost, he fired his trainer.

 

How so? Is your claim that Hatton does know how to box? He doesn't. He knows how to maul, hold and hit, and grapple the strength from his opponent.

He knows as much about boxing as he does jujitsu. Nothing. He'd probably have more success in MMA with his style.

Who the hell throws a leaping left jab? Who walks a guy down who just knocked you down twice with his hands down? Who keeps his chin in the air in close quarters with Pacquiao of all fighters? Who telegraphs nearly every punch he throws? Someone who doesn't know how to box. Hatton.

 

1. Hatton USED to 'box'. He did so for years, in fact. He has always had elite level footwork and very fast hands, and he used them to outbox plenty of people. He used to be an energetic, exciting boxer to watch. why do you think he was able to build such a large fanbase? Through dryhumping his way through near 50 fights?

Hatton stopped boxing after he beat Tszyu. He stuck with what worked in his best win and has decended into a ridiculous, leaping left hook lead and mauling style. He certainly doesn't 'box' now. But he used to, and he can do so (or at least he could once upopn a time).

2. Grabbing, hitting and holding IS boxing. Always has been, always will be. Anyone who has ever set foot in a boxing gym of any repute will tell you this is a FACT. Different boxers have different styles; some are fluid, like RJJ, Mayweather and Pac, some are physical battlers like Hatton and Ruiz. Is it asthetically pleasing? Of course it isn't. But it is still boxing. The fact that you don't think so demonstrates quite clearly that you have never been anywhere near a boxing ring in your life. Any decent boxing training will tell you quite strenously that it is.

As always, your hatred blinds you and makes your opinions on this subject worthless.

MTF

 

You are one dense son of a gun, Reed. Why do you think Hatton was given such a good chance before those fights? Every one of those reasons still applies, but they should be considered less likely now.

Less likely, but not erased. Hatton could still outwork Floyd, he could clip Pacquiao on the chin and take him out. He could wear Pacquiao down.

You can't think of fighters who got blown away and came back to win rematches? How the hell could this possibly happen? How, Reed, how?

 

The very fact that fighters hold and grapple doesn't make it boxing. In fact, holding is illegal.

Secondly, how in the hell do you get the impression I "hate" Hatton? Just because I don't think he can box, doesn't mean I hate him.

Finally, if Hatton had any success early in his career "boxing" it was due to the competition he was fighting. Hell, he couldn't even out-box Ben Tackie - he had to turn that fight into a foul-fest in order to win it.

Okay. So Hatton can box as long as his competition is horrible. I guess that means he can box, just not very well.

 

Hatton is shot and has been declining for a while. The Pacquiao fight should be his last payday.

Why even bother switching trainers at this point?

 

at all this trainer bullshit..

Hatton could have had Eddie futch rise from the dead along with any other great that youlike and Pac would have knocked him out