Fat ass Tim Sylvia KO'd in 10 seconds

It was a 9 second KO. my Bad opcorn:

 

The boxing heavyweight division really awful save for a couple of guys but washed up fighters still won't be able to get a big win.

Maybe some guys like Bert Cooper and Andrew Golota should have a few MMA fights. Perhaps they could get a t-shirt deal out of it or something.

 

*chuckle*

 

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ha

 

Obviously I'm not talking about Mercer, but MMA fighters in general. The sport is evolving and doing it at a fast rate. 4-5 years ago, Sylvia was one of the top heavyweights in the world. Today, with that same skill level, he just wouldn't be able to compete. Fighters are more well rounded, and just being big and able to smother your opponant against the cage isn't enough.

But Sylvia is done. He'll obviously never fight in the UFC again after that embarassment. For him to come in so ridiculously out of shape means he didn't take this fight seriously at all, and probably trained very little, if at all for it. If that's because he took Mercer too lightly, or just got lazy, or whatever, but it is what it is.

It just seems that when MMA fighters fall off, they fall off seemingly overnight, and in a big way. Fighters like Cro-Cop, Liddell, Hughes, Wandy, etc went from being the top fighters in the sport to looking like crap pretty damn quick. Add Tim to that list.

TFK

 

randy coutures trainer said the 2 most dominate styles in mma today are wrestling followed by boxing, everything else can be learnt in a relatively short time, including jui jitsu and muay thai.

on a side note, the sherdog forums are going absolutely crazy right now.

 

What a load of crap! You haven't described any legit heavyweights who have evolved beyond Tim Sylvia's talent level. You're trying to take the heat off Tim's ass by claiming that MMA fighters in general have evolved. Who has evolved? Name some fighters in the heavyweight division who have evolved beyond Tim's talent level to the point that he absolutely cannot compete with them in 5 x 5 minute rounds. You could not name even 5 guys whom you'd confidently pick against Tim in the UFC.
And no, MMA has not evolved THAT much since Tim was champion. You're talking a lot of bull sh*t because of how humiliating Tim's loss was to old man Mercer.
Nobody in MMA has invented new moves since Tim left.:: It's the same sh*t. It's gonna take a hell of a lot longer than just 1 year to see that kind of evolution in MMA. And in case you forgot, Tim was UFC champion only in March of 2007 before losing to Couture over 5 rounds with presumably a bad back. He came and beat Vera and lost to Noguira in a ruthless struggle which probably took a whole lot of years off Nog's lifespan. You're talking sh*t and trying to demean Tim Sylvia to make the UFC look better than it is.

 

Fedor said that too. Boxing and wrestling...the 2 styles one should excel at.
What are the sherdog freaks saying?

 

Right now it is.

UFC 185 division is overrated...I still can't believe some people was impressed with what Anderson Silva has done there.The division was below average when he step foot in it.

 

Sorry Hanz, but you're wrong. The sport is evolving. Do you think the best Light Heavyweights of a few years ago would be able to beat Machida? Do you think the best Middleweights of a few years ago would be able to beat Silva? The best Welters of a few years ago would beat GSP?

The sport is evolving at a brisk pace. In 5 years, the elite fighters will probably be much better than Silva, GSP and Machida. Just like Machida, GSP and Silva are better than the Liddell's, Hughes's, and Franklins of a few years ago, just like Liddell, Hughes and Franklin were better than Royce Gracie, Ken Shamrock and Dan Severn.

TFK

 

No deal. We're talking heavyweights here. Not f*ckin' crappy ass 185 and 205. MMA is evolving but not anywhere near as fast as what you're trying to make it out to be. Name some evolved heavyweight fighters who have surpassed the likes of prime Randy, Noguira, and Fedor.
Machida is a good fighter but when he loses, either by a surprise punch or has a bad day, all this bullsh*t about evolved MMA discussion will be worthless. MMA more often than not is coming down to upset KOs.
Brock Lesnar hasn't proven jack sh*t yet either. He hasn't fought anybody worth a crap. Agreed on Royce, Ken, Dan, etc but that was in the very very early stages of MMA infancy. Human beings aren't going to get that much better than what you see now in combat sports. Just like Mike Tyson in his prime from 86 isn't going to meet evolved boxers who will tear him up if he were to fight now.
I think you're taking the whole evolution thing way too far.

 

Anderson made his name from beating Chris Leben LOL. 185 has been garbage for a long time. We'll see how good Anderson is at 205. I don't think Forrest beats him but if he keeps fighting there, he will lose.

 

Like I said, you're wrong. You can't tell me that the top fighters from a few years ago like Liddell, Hughes and Franklin are as well rounded and skilled as today's champs. They just aren't. As for the heavyweights, they're evolving as well, but they're lagging a bit behind. But in a few years, when fighters like Lesnar, Carwin, Velasquez, etc get better with experience and training, they'll be much better fighters than prime Sylvia, Mir, Arlovski and the like.

The skills a fighter needed to be succesful in the UFC's infancy were not enough to be succesful in the UFC a few years ago. And the skills to be succesful in the UFC a few years ago are not enough to be succesful now. And more than likely, the skills to be succesful today will not be enough to be succesful in 5 years. Of course, there will always be exceptions here and there, but they are the exceptions, and not the rule.

If you've been paying any attention to MMA at all over the years, you just can't argue that fact.

TFK

 

I don't think Sylvia not training much turned his chin to glass.

Mercer just hits considerably harder than any MMA fighter in the world, that's what it boils down to, and he managed to hit Sylvia flush with the first punch he threw.

 

Lol. MMA is a fucking joke. I am embarrassed I was even a casual fan for awhile. Brock Lesner tries the UFC out as a hobby and beats one of the greatest legends ever in the UFC in Randy. What a joke. A fat old, ancient really, contender in heavyweight boxing knocks out a former UFC champ with the first punch he throws::::

MMA guys are tough. I am not denying that. They could beat up 90% of the American population. Still, I doubt most MMA fighters could be solid D-1 athletes. Danny White is one of the cleverest businessmen ever fooling people into think this is a pro sport.

 

Sylvia has never had a great chin. He's been dropped several times by Arlovski, Couture, Fedor, etc. But had he trained, been in shape, took the fight seriously, maybe he could've moved his head or put up his hands to block the punch. But he just stood there and took it. His reflexes are gone.


TFK

 

Seriously, once you went on that rant after the "2-1" kid and I listened to the lame arguments of the Company man TFKook and the welcher know nothing Triplewelch I haven't watched a single fight until this thread. ::::

Honestly, this shit is a fad. MMA is garbage.

 

Keep the trolling out of the MMA forum. If you have nothing better to post than 'MMA sucks!', then there's no reason for you to be here.

And TFKook? What the hell am I a 'kook' about?


TFK

 

Your quotes show your ignorance for the sport. If it is so bad please leave the forum. You bash the sport because a shot fighter who has been out for a year after having his life taken from him by Fedor, comes in to a fight 50 pounds heavy and gets knocked out by a money punch. Way to generalize a whole sport for the shortcomings of one loser.

 

You said no one important dies of cancer,kooker. Anyway, I am just having a go as a continuation of Lesner/Couture when Steve and I realized what a farce this UFC gayness is. It's your forum. If I am violating the rules, I will just laugh in my home. Seriously, even you the company man has to realize this is a death blow to mma.

Alabama almost didn't sanction this fight . LOL. Still, at least he lost to one of the best Heavyweights ever in RAY mERC....LOL sorry hahahahahaahahaha

 

Haven't seen too many important people over the years die of cancer, but if you want to argue that, do it in TAAA.

But this is hardly a death blow for MMA. UFC is doing major business, and a past his prime, out of shape Tim Sylvia getting blown out by a has been Ray Mercer won't do anything at all to hurt the UFC's popularity.

TFK

 

Genius. I brought up two separate fights. You think a world class wrestler could throw on some gloves, fight 2 fights, go 1-1 and then knock out Bernard Hopkins in a fight? Lol. Yeah, Mercer is in his prime. There is nothing I could write to insult the UFC and MMA that could rival just watching it or having a 2-1 fighter be the heavyweight champion, beating one of the most accomplished fighter in the UFC's history. Res ipsa loquitur. MMA speaks for itself. I will leave the forum. I just love laughing at you dopes when your sham sport gets exposed. I won't leave forever. I will come back when some guy comes out of the crowd and beats a dominant UFC champion in 10 seconds.

 

Sherdog forums is funny as hell. I just read that Sylvia said in an interview that boxing needs a "great white hope" and he was hoping to be it. That is especially funny because the Klitchkos and Chagaev have all of the heavyweight titles, not to mention Tim is just waking up right about now...

 

found the video with randy's striking coach he say it within the first 3 mins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKRF...king-coach-shawn.html&feature=player_embedded

well, the fedor haters on sherdog think that arloski and sylvia getting their asses kicked by cans in quicker fashion than they did against fedor, is futher proof that fedor sucks, which is rediculous. a lot of sherdoggers dont consider fedor the number one top heavyweight anymore, unless he beats brock, mir and barnett.

and obviously the sherdog boxing fans are loving it.

 

Considering wrestling skills don't mean a thing in boxing, probably not.

Dumb argument.

TFK

 

They allow punching in MMA. I thought a fan like yourself would have noticed this.

 

This just shows your ignorance for the sport. Of course he could not beat Hopkins, because he is not a boxer. But he COULD compete in MMA simply because wrestling is the most important skillset in MMA. Brock has competed in combat sports ALL OF HIS LIFE and a lot of it at the top level. Not to mention that Couture was 45 years old and ripe for the taking. I bet if it were reversed your posts would say "what a weak sport, a geriatric 45 year old half the size of his opponent wins the title".

And as far as Mercer goes. This fight was nothing more than a freakshow. Sylvia is way past it, came in fat and unprepared, and never was very good to begin with.


Do some homework if you are going to comment on the sport, retard.

 

You should really just not post about things you know nothing about. Danny White? LMFAO!

Brock Lesnar didn't "try MMA out for a hobby" The guy quit pro wrestling, while he was the highest paid pro wrestler alive, dedicated himself to training MMA for 2 YEARS, before he even stepped foot in a cage. He was already a very decorated amateur wrestler. Or did you think he was "just a fake wrestler"

Randy Couture is 16-9 or some shit. He's only a "legend" in some people's minds because he's been fighting for so fucking long and has some key wins at the end of his career.

 

Of course they allow punching in MMA. But what does that have to do with the scenario involving a wrestler and Bernard Hopkins?

TFK