Mayweather/Marquez 24/7

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  1. qwertyhgfdsa603

    qwertyhgfdsa603 Leap-Amateur

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    jmm wins 100%

    bet on jmm before its to late
     
  2. Hut*Hut

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    It was close but I think I agree. Pretty spectacular for a 55 year old terminally ill geezer.
     
  3. Matchup_Analyzer

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    By Blockheads logic he should be dining on his own turds afterall, it's wasted vitamins and proteins..

    I wonder what Raffy thinks of downing some fresh piss to prepare for a fight.
     
  4. adamiw

    adamiw Undisputed Champion

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    just seen the second episode.....gonna have a harder time supporting Marquez after finding out he's a Fifa man


    Anyone else suprised at how much access the Marquez camp was giving to the cameras?....i think Nacho was quite pleased to have everyone see him dissect Floyd's style and habbits.
     
  5. Barristan

    Barristan Undisputed Champion

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    cock fighters (no pun intended) would pee on their roosters after a bad injury. Piss has antiseptic qualities.
     
  6. Barristan

    Barristan Undisputed Champion

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    Mayweather should piss on Marquez's face after the fight to heal his wounds.
     
  7. Double L

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    I can't believe how many homophobes are on the forum. In any case, JMM is not gay. And his drinking his own pee, while it seems gross, is an indication of how determined to win JMM is more than anything else.
     
  8. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    JMM has a very good chance on pulling a upset.
     
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    salaco Undisputed Champion

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    Its pretty harmless consuming your own urine, unless you keep recycling it, but its pretty foul. As mentioned earlier, great fighter, strange bloke. Iy might encourage Mayweather further to find him from the outside though, if he stinks of piss.
     
  10. Double L

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    I know they only showed bits and pieces, but it looked like PBF was training more to the body, and showing more of a slugging style. Like I said, it was hardly a representative sample, especially considering they don't show PBF sparring at ALL. But my guess is PBF will at least start out engaging more than he has in the past since he'll be back to fighting a guy who is smaller than him. Depending on how JMM copes, PBF may be aggressive the whole fight.
     
  11. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    THROUGHOUT his Career, JM Marquez has Been a NOTORIOUSLY SLOW Starter...Even Juan Diaz's PILLOW PUNCHING Ass had EARLY ROUNDS Success Against...

    It's to Floyd's ADVANTAGE to Come Out MORE Aggressively Against Marquez than he Normally Does...& REED DIDN'T Even Get Into Floyd's SIZE AND STRENGTH Advantage...



    REED:hammert:
     
  12. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    :rolleyes: ....since the fight was announce "Mayweather is going to beat Marquez down"..."Mayweather is the best"..."Mayweather, Mayweather, Mayweather"......Mayweather drink his own urine and swallows 50 oz of yellow semen...and now he can pull an upset? :doh:
     
  13. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    JMM is no fucking BUM dude! How the fuck can anyone say he has zero chance? If anything he should be considered p4p the best having beaten Pac (in the opinion of many people) in the rematch!
     
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    Marquez is the best fighter Floyd has ever stepped into the ring with. This should be the hardest fight of Floyd's career. I can't believe how many people are wrting Marquez off in this one.
     
  15. Double L

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    Yes. In a pound for pound sense, JMM is the best fighter Mayweather will have faced in his career. However, nearly all of JMM's accomplishments have been at 130 pounds and below.

    JMM can't even claim to be the best light-weight in the world, let alone the best junior welterweight (where he's never fought). This of course means that JMM is completely unproven at fighting welterweights.

    Then again, PBF hasn't proved anything at 147 either, except that it's the weight at which he prefers to compete (as long as he doesn't have to face other welterweights).
     
  16. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Skill only gets you so far when facing a guy 2 divisions bigger than you are. Not only is Floyd the much bigger man, he's the more skilled fighter. JMM was hurt pretty bad by Juan Diaz to top it all off. He's getting stopped by Floyd.
     
  17. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Agreed! It's fucking stunning! :doh::doh::doh:
     
  18. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    You bring up 2 good points here.
     
  19. Double L

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    If PBF is more skilled than JMM, it's not by much.
     
  20. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Mayweather is slightly more skill(boxing) than Marquez.....but Mayweather is much...much more athletic....
     
  21. Double L

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    I can agree with that although I wouldn't go as far as to say, "much, much". I'd say he's "more" athletic than Marquez. More important, he's younger and much bigger.

    My guess is PBF will depend largely on his size advantage to win the fight. I'm not saying he couldn't out-fox JMM - maybe he could. But I think one of the reasons PBF is making this fight is that it's a chance to make an exciting fight and score an impressive knock-out without taking too much risk.

    Besides losing, I think PBF also wants to avoid having to stink his way to a win. Hence the small opponent he can safely trade with.
     
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    What's Being OVERLOOKED Here is Marquez's DEFENSE...

    YES, he's a SKILLED Boxer, but he's NEVER Been a Defensive Wizard...In Fact, REED would Say Marquez is Tooooooooooooooooo HITTABLE for a Guy w/as Much Skill & Technique as he Admittedly Possesses...If Marquez has a Weakness, it's his DEFENSE (& LESS than Stout Whiskers)....

    A SMALLER, OLDER Guy that's a Notoriously SLOW Starter & NOT The Hardest Fighter in the World to Land Shots On???...

    Hmmmm....



    REED:hammert:
     
  23. Double L

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    His defensive lapses are due to his conscious decision to become more entertaining. JMM, when he was almost strictly a counter-puncher, exhibited brilliant defense.

    And his defense in the Pacquiao fights certainly wasn't bad, save for the first round of the first fight when he didn't know what he was in against.

    I think too much weight is given to the Diaz fight to gauge his abilities. In Diaz he was facing a guy who never stops throwing punches but who doesn't have all that much power. Against a guy like that trading with him is the best approach. JMM took advantage of the openings Diaz left when he was throwing punch after punch.

    Ultimately, his strategy paid off because he landed the cleaner and more telling blows. But a consequence of this was that he got hit.

    I think if JMM puts his mind to it, as he did against Pacquiao, he can be very elusive and make his opponent pay dearly for his aggression.

    JMM's efforts to be more fan-friendly have paid off. For much of his career, he was viewed as a boring fighter with every fight seemingly following the same pattern. Years later, he's been in some of the most exciting fights in boxing.

    My guess is he won't be as easy for PBF to hit as he was for Diaz.
     
  24. *Z*

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    Here is a simple question for everyone claiming JMM to be some stiff test for Floyd.

    Who is actually picking JMM to win?
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    It almost cost him in the Diaz fight, he was clearly hurt by pillow fisted Diaz. Obviously Floyd isn't known for his power, but he certainly hits much harder than Diaz. I don't think JMM can take it from a guy as big as Floyd.

    JMM is getting stopped.
     
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    I sat & stared at the tv with my mouth open in disbelief at that shit when I saw it the first time. Between this & the oxygen tank dude is fuckin "eccentric" to say the least.
     
  27. Double L

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    I'm not disagreeing with you that JMM will probably get stopped. But I do think it's safe to expect he won't be as reckless against PBF as he was against Diaz.
     
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    I love how people try to bring up Juan hurting Marquez like it was a big deal, Juan probably could stumble any of the fighters even the ones with the best chins, cuz he hits often and accurate, he just can't put you down, and thats the real power, trust me if Pacman after 24 tounds couldn't knock Marquez out Mayweather isn't doin it.
    Also Corley had Mayweather hurt as well, why didn't Hatton KO Mayweather, he hits harder right? Or Judah knocked Mayweather down, as well I don't hear people bringing that up.
    Marquez isn't getting stopped.

    And though I want JMM to win, I do think Mayweather will probably get it.
    But if JMM won I wouldn't be surprised.
    JMM is accurate, and smart has every punch in his arsenal and throws perfect combinations unorthadox combinations, bodyshots and everything he needs to do to give Mayweather problems, make no mistake about it this is Mayweathers most gifted fighter he has faced, the only big difference is weight and speed, people sayin Mayweather is a smarter fighter than Marquez are dumb as shit.
    They both are equally smart...
    PBF hasn't been in the position to adapt that often, Marquez has, so when it comes down to it, Marquez will be ready.
     
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    And I agree with Double L JMM used to be a defensive wizard thats why everyone thought he was so boring, did people forget that already?
    He has the skills to be defensive, and great...but in this fight he needs to throw combinations head and body and keep coming, Mayweathers speed isn't something JMM hasn't seen before...
     
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    marquez doesnt have the reflexes he had earlier in his career.
     

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