Shane Mosley: "I Wasn't Impressed By Mayweather"

Things to look forward to, Marquez - Cotto, Marquez - Mosely, Marquez - Clottey, Marquez - Williams,.. .. why not, he's a bonified challenger to welterweight now... does anyone have a problem with that?...

 

Mosley just wants a payday. Do you not remember him saying he would fight Pacquiao at a catch weight a few months ago?

 

I don't think he would, that's my whole point. Mayweather is a money grubbing fraud who is stealing stupid people's money. He's got idiots all over convinced that JMM was a great challenger.

 

EVERY FIGHTER WANTS A PAYDAY! You act as if Mosley hasn't always fought the best available guys. You should be critisizing Floyd for fighting for money for the past 5 fucking years and not once seeking out a true challenge.

 

You cannot be serious. Shane clearly wants the money. Its obvious.
Anybody who's fought as high as 154 stating he would drop to 140 to face Manny Pacquiao is a guy clearly looking for a check.

Last I checked Joshua Clottey is his mandatory and Mosley is trying to get out of it in hopes of Mayweather taking the fight. Mosley should take that fight and then worry about either Mayweather or Pacquiao.

As far as Mayweather-Mosley that actual fight. I think its a competitive fight for sure but if Miguel Cotto can outbox Mosley for a unanimous decision, then I think its clear as day that a faster and more accurate punching fighter like Mayweather can do the same thing IMHO.

 

Well, I was responding to him saying that Mosley wants to fight the best welterweights.

I'm not sure if Jin took all his money or what, but the dude is desperate for a payday. Mosley is a nice guy so I hope he gets the Mayweather fight after Mayweather - Pacquiao.

 

agREED

 

Boxingtalk has it that Mosley is getting three dates on HBO next year...does he even have three fights left in him?

Btalk "understands" that the dates would come in Jan/Feb, late spring, and ... "and the third bout, hopefully a mega-fight with undefeated pound for pound Picasso Floyd Mayweather Jr next fall."

 

Well I could go by speculation like you are doing or I can go by what has truely seemed to motivate Mosley and he has never once proven to me that money is his main motivation. He's even directly said that he has enough money to satisfy himself and that he's fighting to prove he's the best welterweight of this era. Going after Pacquiao at that time was due to the excessive hype Pacquiao was getting following the Hatton KO so obviously Mosley wanted to knock off Pacquiao and take over the top spot of the p4p rankings. I see no problem with that.

As for fighting at 154, it seemed like a natural progression at the time to move up to 154 for Shane. He did it and fights fairly well there so why not move up and down between weight classes? I see it as a sign of taking on challenges whereas you see it as a sign of running after a payday. Meanwhile a career built on not ducking people, fighting on undercards, fighting non-top guys to rebuild his confidence gets completely overlooked and people assume since he got a divorce he's dying for a pay day. In interviews Mosley seems more concerned with going a full year without fighting and thereby developing rust.

Then you have PBF who openly concedes he fights for paydays not challenges, was being hounded by the IRS, has yet to fight a top tier welter weight and he gets less criticism for seeking out money fights than Shane does. The shit is ridiculous. :dunno:

 

See here is where misinformation turns into myths. HBO pulled Mosley's Clottey fight date after breaking a promise to give him the Dec 26 date for a fight. I never once heard Clottey was Mosley's mandatory only that a fight was being worked out between the two. Now I'm hearing he may face Berto in January unless Floyd accepts a fight with him. If Mosley was truly about chasing a payday he never would have agreed to fight Clottey as that fight wouldn't net him shit. He could probably make the same if not more fighting Cintron who called him out, and that is an easier fight by far. He took the Clottey fight to stay in fighting form, not to get a payday.

 

You're conflating "would" & "should"

 

You seem to think that I don't get that.
That's the point I was making. What on earth, would make anybody think that he would?
It's a straightforward inductive inference that he wouldn't.

 

I know you get it, I wan't trying to say you didn't. Sorry if it seemed that way.

 

All good

 

I dont know what conflating means,.. but you gotta admit,.. all top welterweights should dig in to Marquez now, have themselves a feast, they have permission,... if it glorifies Fraud's resume with a name,... 'Juan Manuel Marquez' .. swwwwwwwwssss *saucey suction,.. let's feed the world.

 

Theres' a big difference between:
"What on earth makes you think that PBF would fight a top 147 pounder?"
&
"What on earth makes you think that PBF should fight a top 147 pounder?"

You answered as though I wrote the second ("should") version.
It's easy to answer that one.

What I really meant was, that given what we know about PBF, what on earth makes you think that he would ever fight a top 147 pounder?
-Now that's a lot tougher to answer.

 

Well we indeed have the same view, he doesn't need to, the way he dictates boxing he could fight minimumweights up to lightweights, and his groupies can raise the arch of triumph and point out all the 'big names' on his resume, the same way they mention 'Oscar De La Hoya' as one of Hopkins greatest wins.

 

Mayweather is a shameless cherry-picker.

 

did you order the mayweather jr- marquez match?

 

Would anyone give Mosley or Cotto credit if they beat Marquez?

 

id be impressed if mosley got 4 times his career high payday to fight marquez, win or lose.

 

With Shane's age....I'd probably go with Floyd to make him look amatuerish.

Five or six years ago....Shane woulda knocked Floyd out.