Manny won't beat Cotto......not even close.

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  1. Explosivo

    Explosivo Undisputed Champion

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    I give mad props to Manny Pacquiao and his peeps. He is what boxing is all about. He gives the fans their bux worth and faces anyone.

    But it's all over now. Damn shame.

    And it all works out for Floyd, cus....he will dominate Cotto like a mofo.
     
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    :atu:This thread will come back to bite you in the ass later.
     
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    I concur
     
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    It's all about the ticker,.. if Pacquiao has a strong enough heart and core strength to carry extra weight, he may even be able to compete as a middleweight, it's what I mean when it comes to the big heavyweights like Lewis and the Klitschko's,.. the bitterness leads some people to cry that "they only have success cause day so big" ...well,.. by all means, let's see the other big men step up?.. where are they?.. ..oh, exposed by smaller nimbler heavyweights before they even reach that level ofcourse,.. so it's all about the power of pacqiao's filter,.. he seems to be BRIMMING with speed and power,.. so my guess is that he can compete at 147,.. but, wether he beats Cotto or not we'll have to see,... Cotto has skills and heavy hands.
     
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    I also favor Cotto here.
     
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    Maybe, maybe not. This fight isn't as one sided as people make it. I don't know how it became so cliche' that Cotto has no chance versus Pacquiao. Oh yeah, I do, it's because he stopped Hatton in 2 rds.

    Well let's look at it like this. Manny is nothing more than a speedy brawler who has shown he can be outboxed. Cotto has shown he can deal with speedy brawlers and he's a very good boxer. I think Cotto's size, power, and durability on top of that should make him the favorite. Unfortunately you have too many people voting based off of Manny's last fight rather than how the 2 of their styles and attributes mesh.

    I agree with Explosivo that Cotto will beat Pacquiao and that Floyd will then beat Cotto. I'd also like to go on the record and say I was the first who said this not him.
     
  8. KaukipRrr

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    I agree Lib four Lib,.. but Roach and Manny have pulled a bitch move by draining Cotto down a few pounds,.. and we've all seen how wobbly and vunerable Cotto is when he's drained.
     
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    Which is why I've also said Manny should say fuck the catch weight come in where he feels comfortable and just pay the fine. Look how well it worked out for Floyd.
     
  10. KaukipRrr

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    According to an interview done with Roach,.. he said that if Cotto does what Floyd did,.. he wouldn't let him get away with it,.. now Im not sure what 'not letting him get away with it" means,.. wether he forces Cotto to burn off 2 extra pounds for a second weigh in,...or call it off altogether like Castillo - Corrales 3.
     
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    cotto poses a bigger threat to mayweather jr than pacquiao does

    if cotto does win, i hope its decisive enough to where arum doesnt just try to rematch him with pacquiao
     
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    Cotto's too slow to beat Floyd. It'll be Floyd-Baldomir pt 2.

    Maybe Nike can come up with a new boxing shoe for Floyd that has cleats.
     
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    Mr. kNow nothing strikes again. You should just post a sucking sound anytime Mr. Boring PBF's name comes up. COTTO HAS A 0% CHANCE OF BEATING FLOYD. It is an easy, easy, easy fight for Floyd. The above comment is only you trying to make a monster out of an easy fight for Floyd.


    Cotto has a shot against pack because of his size and he has decent skill. Cotto has nothing on Floyd which means the balless wonder of the world PBF will fight him next or perhaps Ivan Calderon called Pussy boy Floyd out.
     
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    mayweather jr. vs cotto is the most exciting fight than can be made with out of the proposed welterweight showdowns. if you are comparing baldomir and cotto then i dont know what to tell you. cotto has infinitely more ability and also less of a chin, meaning mayweather jr. will be more willing to go for the hill vs a guy he has more of a chance to damage.


    cotto has a better chance to beat mayweather jr than pacquiao does. not as much as he wouldve before margarito took something from him, but more than pacquiao does.

    it must pain your bitchass knowing none of these fellas can beat the guy you dislike.
     
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    I don't dispute that Cotto is miles better than Baldomir. However their weaknesses to Floyd is what is comparable. Floyd is thrice the boxer Baldomir is and he's twice the boxer Cotto is. You can also best believe Floyd'll be running his ass off like he did against Baldomir.
     
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    The only guy I think that would beat your boyfriend with ease is Paul Williams. I am complaining that your sperm source fights the easiest levels of competetion he can. A fight with either Marquez or Pacman is a farse. Floyd started at 130 and Pac started at diaperweight. He isn't a welter and Floyds is and he can't make below welter obviously coming in at 146 for a 144. Whether you want to admit it or not tadpole gargler your lover should fight welterweights...why? BECAUSE HE IS A FUCKING WELTERWEIGHT. Coto would be the easiest fight for him based on how awful he looked lately.
     
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    It dosent matter weather Cotto beats Pac or Pac beats Cotto. They will both get dominated by PBF anyway.
     
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    PBF talked about Mosley like there was no way he was going to fight him. He seemed to be saying, "Mosley had his chance and not it's gone."

    He might have had a DK smile on. But he was every bit the azz-hole while Lampley was interviewing him that he's always been. Make no mistake.
     
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    Floyd would fuck Cotto up. Especially at this point. He'll fuck Manny up too, but Manny will give it a better go due to his speed.

    And Pac TKO 6 Cotto. Miguel has lost something.
     
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    Hard to argue with this although I think Cotto has a better chance against PBF due to size and strength. Either way he will beat both Cotto and Pac unless one of them get lucky.
     
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    I predict Mayweather won't fight Cotto,Pacquiao or Mosley
     
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    Why is Pacquiao's Name Getting Top Billing when it's Cotto's Title they're Fighting For???...REED Knows Manny's Making MORE Money & All that, but the DEFENDING CHAMPION Usually Gets his Name Listed 1st in these Instances...



    REED:dunno:
     
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    Didn't DLH try to pull a fast one and come out AFTER Castillejo until Cas' people balked? That was the shadiest of all.

    Honestly, being a boxing fan forever, iv never even realized first billing or whatever...so no idea if it's true.

    BTW I like Cotto in this fight. His only loss was against a cheater. Whether he cheated that time or not...who knows, but it's well within the realm of possibility. The only question is if that fight ruined him (he looked poor in the Clottey fight to me). But I always seem to not be convinced Pac will win, even though he is awesome. I guess a lot of that is him taking risky fights. Even against DLH it was risky b/c no one knew DLH was that shot, and he is quite bigger than Manny. I like Pac's chances MORE against Floyd than against Cotto.

    Now that I posted that Pac will give Cotto the 1 hitter quitter.
     
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    Generally, when 1 Fighter has a Title & the Other 1 DOESN'T (& it's a CHAMPIONSHIP Fight), the Defending Champion Gets his Name Listed 1st on the Posters & Promos...AND he Walks to the Ring 2nd...

    If BOTH Guys have Titles in the Division they're Fighting in Or if NEITHER Guy has a Title, then the BIGGER NAME Gets Top Billing...In this Case, Manny IS the Bigger Name, but he's BELTLESS @ 147 AND they're Fighting for Cotto's Title...



    REED:hammert:
     
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    Safest prediction of the thread.
     
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    Pacquaio and Mayweather are the most ACCURATE punchers in the sport. They hit their target over and over on the money. Cotto needs to crowd Pacquaio in order to negate Pacquaio new techniques, the right hook.

    But one problem Cotto will face is: Pacquaio is no longer the fighter who fought Morales. This Pacquaio has clearly EVOLVED. He is no longer an one arm fighter and has improved his footwork tenfold as well.

    Remember when Cotto was realing against Clottey and the latter failed to put his foot to the pedal? Can anybody envision Pacquaio failing to press the action?

    Cotto will come in weight drained. Size will be a factor EARLY. Cotto will go for the knock out early or else he will be broken down instead the longer the fight goes. Cotto will fight at an unconfortable pace for him and will get TKO'ed.

    After that Pacquaio-Mosley should be EPIC.
     
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    I seem to remember Cotto NOT being willing to put his title on the line. So the WBC went and created the "Diamond belt"

    I'm not sure Cotto's actual belt is on the line. Can anyone confirm for sure? I think it's just the newly manufactured garbage belt.
     
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    Cotto quietly shaping into fighting form under Pacquiao's shadow


    Quietly, one of boxing's best and Puerto Rico's number one pugilist Miguel Cotto has been sharpening his knives under the shadow of the same little giant he aims to slay on November 14 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. That little giant has been wrecking havoc in the world of boxing, conquering different weight classes and demolishing beloved heroes along the way.

    So understandably, despite Cotto's own popularity, he has been overlooked and has been subjected to play second fiddle next to the little giant that is surrounded by myths and legends because of his gargantuan accomplishments in the ring. It's a feeling Cotto isn't used to, as he himself has headlined numerous fights cards in the past and is one of the most popular fighters that has ever laced gloves at the Madison Square Garden in New York. But with the looks of it, Cotto seems not to mind floating under the radar and is focused on nothing but overcoming the challenge at hand. Cotto wrote in his official Twitter page that he feels great and has constantly been updating his followers of how smooth and effective his training has been in the past few weeks. While the media (myself included) have followed his opponent closely and have been distracted by the return of Mayweather, Cotto has been slowly shaping into fighting form.



    Full Story--http://www.examiner.com/x-10947-Indianapolis-Fight-Sports-Examiner~y2009m9d30-Cotto-quietly-shaping-into-fighting-form-under-Pacquiaos-shadow
     

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