Poll : Why would PBF refuse to face Mosley?

From what I remember, the fight fell apart because Winky Wright wanted a 50-50 split and Arum was offering a 55-45 split in favor of Mayweather. Winky never accepted the fight.

 

Winky priced himself out. Kinda like the time when Shane priced himself out of the biggest payday of his career for a 3rd fight with Oscar.

 

I don't recall that at all. I'm afraid I'm going to need some proof or at least hear it from someone who isn't a Chicken Mayweather fan.

 

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http://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/26/Sports/Wright_vs_Mayweather_.shtml

Basically Wright said that he wouldn't take less money than Mayweather so the fight never happened.

 

Mayweather isn't injecting himself with juice to get un unfair advantage. No doubt you will have nothing to say about that.

 

That isn't exactly what the article said, but whatever. To me it still looks like Floyd changed his mind after careful thought. Plus why is it that the fight falling apart is Winky's fault for not giving in to Floyd's demands when the blame can just as easily be laid on Floyd for not giving in to Winky's demands?

It was Floyd who called out Winky, and not the other way around. It's called pricing yourself out of the fight.

Neither is Mosley, so I don't see your point.

 

Mosley is not taking roids ::

He admitted he was juicing infront of a grand jury.

 

xcerpt from interview with Shane:

Q: After you challenged him, a week later, Mayweather wished you good luck in your career which seemed to indicate he’s not interested in fighting you. He also mentioned that he challenged you twice, and he claims that you turned him down back in 1999 and again in 2006. Did you really turn him down?



A: Like I said, he’s really a liar. He likes to lie a lot. In 1999 there’s a film where he’s fighting in Michigan when he was fighting at 130 and I was fighting at 135, and I asked him, like when HBO does the prefight analysts talk to the fighters before they fight. I talked to him, and hopefully it’s recorded somewhere—I think it was on FX—I asked him, “Are you planning on coming up to lightweight to fight me?†And he said, “No,†He had no intention of coming to lightweight to fight me, he wanted t beat Carlos Monzon’s record. He didn’t want to come to lightweight. That’s when I jumped from lightweight to welterweight to fight Oscar De La Hoya. That was the first incident that he’s talking about, so he turned me down in 1999.



Now, the other time he’s talking about is when I fought three times—one, two, three, back-to-back-to-back—and they tried to rush me to fight him right away, like two or three months later. I said, give me a month, and we’ll do it like, I think it was in January—I said, “We’ll do it in Januaryâ€. They wanted to do it in like November or December, and I said, “Give me a month and we’ll do it in January or February.†They didn’t want to do that. So they chose to fight Oscar De La Hoya. I said, “Go ahead and fight Oscar, and if you beat Oscar, then let’s get busy. Let’s do this.†He beat Oscar—he didn’t want to fight me.



He’s been turning me down. I hate when he continues to say, “Oh, he turned me down because of a tooth acheâ€. Yeah. I got head butted in that fight that and my tooth was loose that night. They asked me to fight Mayweather and I said, “Give me an extra month, and I’ll fight him.†He didn’t want to fight me, which was cool. He could go and fight Oscar because that’s more money. Okay. That’s cool, but after that fight if you win—fight me. He didn’t want to do that. He chose to retire or fight somebody else. I’m getting tired of that lie! They need to wipe that lie out of there. The reporters and stuff, they keep saying it, so that lie needs to be talked about.



Q: Now Shane, on a recent edition of On the Ropes Boxing Radio, I actually had a chance to speak with Floyd Mayweather Senior and I asked him who he thought would pose the toughest challenge to his son from 147 down, and he said, “Shane Mosleyâ€. Style-wise, why do you think Floyd Senior views you as the biggest threat to his son?



I’m the biggest threat to anybody at the welterweight division. Nobody can beat me. He knows that. All the fighters know that. It’s just the writers and some of the fans that don’t really know. They’re undecided. I’m really pound for pound the best. I am the best, right now. They can’t beat me. Floyd can’t beat me, Manny Pacquiao can’t be me—I am the best at welterweight. That’s why I have to go up to junior middleweight and fight people up there because welterweight is my division. They can’t beat me. I’m the King of that division.

Shane Mosley calls Floyd Mayweather a "liar"*-*liverpuncher.com


So there you go - Floyd explaining the crap that Mayweather fans keep regurgitating and him saying NOW that he wants to fight him. Really the NOW part should be what people think about but for some reason there are Mayweather fans that seem like they want to protect him more than Mayweather does himself. Listen, if you are a fan of a fighter you should WANT TO see him fight the best. If you have a doubt that he'll lose to a fighter you should WANT TO see him erase that doubt. For some reason though there are Mayweather fans that will talk up his wins against Baldomir, Oscar, Hatton, Marquez, and wish for an upcoming fight with Manny and say there is no reason for him to fight the best at his weight. It's sickening to me.
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Whatever happened in the past doesn't mean much anyway. Fuck it, whatever happened, let it be.

The fight should be made in 2010 if both guys keep winning.

 

No he didn't. He admitted he juiced in front of a grand jury. Learn how to differentiate between present and past tense.

Hey Azazel where you find that interview?

 

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=21429&more=1

 

Thanks.

 

Floyd IMO will fight Mosley and he should, he'll win going away. Boxing fans seem to only remember the last fight so everyone is high as fuck on Mosley for the Margarito destruction but one must not forget that for all his natural ability, Shane ain't much of a boxer. A nice jab puzzles him and he doesn't have a lot of boxing IQ as it is. How do you think he'll deal with the best boxer of the planet with one of the best defenses in history and who has proved to be tricky as hell. He'll win some rounds based on his activity, size/strenght advantage but basically it will be all Floyd on the middle of the ring.

Floyd UD12.

 

Mosley WAS taking something.

WAS is the key word here.

 

I'm not so sure. Floyd's dad doesn't seem to think beating Mosley would be as easy for PBF as you do.

Plus, my guess is that when PBF gets beaten, it won't be by an expert "boxer," at least not most people's definition of, "boxer." Rather, it will be by a guy who hits relatively hard, is willing to take three to give one, and who's taller than PBF.

Mosley's hand-speed, aggression, durability, and hate to say it, his grappling, will give PBF fits. And apparently, PBF knows it.

 

PBF is just trying to preserve is undefeated record. But like pointed out earlier, UNDEFEATED dont mean shit. If he dosent challenge himself people will forget about him real quick, plus we will never know how good he is if he dosent fight the best.

 

He's going to pretend he didn't see this response or the one I tried to explain to him. His MO is pretty obvious if you watch him. He'll argue his points with you until you make a point he can't counter. Then he'll go away for a few days come back and make the same point you already countered like he never saw it.

That's why I don't usually even converse with him when it comes to Floyd or Mosley.

 

PBF isn't really that good. He's only perceived to be. His chin is made of china and as soon as someone with a decent punch lands on it his 0 will go. Unfortuantely that may never happen unless he underestimates somebody, fights them, and gets upset.

 

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What a lame and false argument. Floyd has faced plenty of punchers, has been hit by some of them and gone nowhere. Floyd has a good chin.

 

As you saw against Chop Chop Corley. ::

 

Right, I forgot. Every fighter who has been hurt by a flush hook they didn't see coming yet didn't go down has a "chinna chin".

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