The "ARTHUR ABRAHAM is a Baaaaaaaad Man" BANDWAGON...

Pacman ICED hatton with 1 punch, at a few divisions higher than his natural weight.

Pacman is clearly the best puncher in the sport.

I can't believe people are using people like Elcock as a benchmark for Arabham's power ::

And conveniently forgetting he couldn't even come close to putting away 2 welterweights, Sharon Taylor and Jantuah.

A fresher Taylor having been bashed senseless by Mosley at 147.

And Arabham puts everything into almost every shot. He hit Jermain flush with some of those shots early, and they did nothing.

Taylor was tired as per usual, got hit flush, and was KO'd.

Pavlik smashed Taylor in what, round 4?

Arabham is like the homer simpson of boxing. Just stands there all night taking punches to the gloves (in homer's case, the head) - waits till the opponent gets tired, lands a clean punch and KO's them ::

And I think a lot of you should know better to be honest.

I'm sure most of you remember Freitas's 100% KO ratio, his reputation as a brutal KO puncher, his impressive KO's over people like Alexandrov.

And yet what happened to his power against people like Casamayor, Chico, even Raheem and Diaz?

Arabham's power is overrated, like just Freitas's was, based on admittedly impressive KO's over scrubs.

If Arabham can take out Frock or Kessler then you'll have something to shout about.

 

Yet beating him made you an Abraham fan?

 

AMEN BROTHER AMEN. yOU KEEP PREACHING TO THE KOOL AID DRINKERS. I AGREE 100% WITH THE ABOVE AND IT IS THE POST OF THE MONTH.

I will be merciless once this scrub gets exposed and tthus far only you will be spared when Chinus and I return in glory!! You are officially V.P of my Abraham doesn't deserve a bandwagon.

 

Excellent :bears:

By the way, who would you root for in Arabham Vs Dirrell?

Or rather, who would you prefer to see lose?

 

Abraham. Direll is a disgrace. So is Abraham, but far less so. I think Abraham is a protected fraud. He fights the way he does because he could get kayo'd and win a decision(See Edison Miranda 1)

Direll is an insult to sports, to being a man, to having a fighting spirit. He is lazy prick who wants something for nothing. Ideally, a double kayo would be great, but I will cheer for Abraham for the first time in that fight. Dirrell is an embarrassment to the sport.

 

For once your uber-negativity is quite on point.

 

Hatton? ::

That is your benchmark.

Ricky Hatton? :laughing::laughing:

At least Taylor gets KO´d by people, who can REALLY punch, not by Floyd Pussyweather, who hasn´t flat out stopped anyone else in 10 years.

Ricky Hatton. :atu:

 

:: Exactly.

Hatton gets comically KO'd by Mayweather in 10 ounce gloves, nearly KTFO by Luis Collazo, and rocked by Juan Lazcano, yet that's his "benchmark" for Hatton being the best puncher in the sport.

Probably because at 130 and above, Pacquiao has been more of an accumulative than a lights out puncher, excluding the Hatton fight, of course. Which I think speaks more for Hatton's punch resistance (or lack thereof) than Manny's punching power.

But oh wait...I guess since the Hatton KO happened "a few divisions higher than his natural weight" makes a difference. Nevermind the fact that Pac was bursting at the seams in his last few fights at 130, and says he feels most comfortable at 140 than any other weight class.

 

The benchmark for Abraham being Jermain Taylor?

Tell me, what pray tell happened to Taylor in the Froch fight? Yes, how unimpressive for a much smaller man to kayo a bigger man with one punch when you have the great Abraham kayoing the Titanium chinned Jermain Taylor who I might add has a great defense as well.Btw, Hatton /pacman wasn't competetive at all. Abraham needed the refs help, German judging and a last second kayo to get by a shot fighter his won size.


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Clowns

 

Hatton has a better chin than Taylor.

And whatever you think, ICING Hatton with 1 punch in the second round is a far better benchmark of power than fucking Elcock, and KOing a tired Jermain in the 12th round, fool ::

That's more impressive than anything Arabham has done by a huge margin, especially when you consider Pacman's weight transitions.

 

Hatton was tired and ran into a clean punch by Floyd, then bashed his head on the ringpost.

And yes, Pacman fighting a few divisions higher than his natural weight is significant.

His speed and power are freaky, considering how small he is.

You do know he spent half his career at flyweight right?

And no, Hatton wasn't nearly KTFO by Collazo or Lazcano.

He was buzzed by both of them indeed.

Also, there's no such thing as "nearly KTFO". You're either KTFO or you're not.

 

Same here. I would root for anyone over Dirrell, absolutely anyone, so yes, even Arabham.

 

Still :: at Arabham not being able to stop welterweights Sharon Taylor and Jantuah, not really the mark of being the hardest puncher in the sport.

I would pick Pacman to KO Sharon tomorrow.

 

:atu:

 

Keep on laughing, because you have no argument to the contrary, silly Gerry ::

What evidence is there that Taylor has a better chin? The fact that he's been KO'd twice in a row?

How much of an Arabham groupie you are is fucking unbelievable. Almost entirely because he is German too, and being the weak minded individual you are, you feel compelled to like him purely because he is the best fighter in Germany. As I said before, stylistically, he's not even the kind of fighter you usually like.

Even acting like KOing a gassed Taylor is a big deal, Taylor having been KO'd in his last fight by fucking Carl Frock, the fighting farmer.

Oh but it doesn't stop there, he also KO'd Elcock and Gevor! Oh noes! Teh powah!

 

That he didn´t get KTFO by the welterweight equivalent of Cory Stinks, but by three guys, whose combined KO percentage is eighty fuckin two percent? :laughing:

 

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So in other words, it was Hatton's gas tank and that darn padded ring post that did him in against Mayweather. Not his chin, right? :doh:

His speed is "freaky," I'll give you that much. But there's nothing freaky at all about his power at 130 and up. After facing Manny, Jorge Solis, David Diaz, and De La Hoya all said they didn't feel any extraordinary power, only that Manny was overwhelmingly fast. The fact that they all took dozens of Manny's best shots and yet were all stopped on accumulation is a testament to that. Even Shawn Porter and Jose Luis Castillo made similar remarks after sparring with Manny recently.

Also, considering Manny is unable to make super-featherweight, I wouldn't say he's all that small either. True enough, he did spend a good deal of his career at flyweight. But this was over a decade ago and he was a fucking teenager for most of the time. The man couldn't sniff that weight right now without severing a limb. I mean shit, Guillermo Jones started his career at 147, would you consider him a natural welterweight?

I said he was nearly KTFO out by Collazo, which he was in round twelve. And rocked by Lazcano, which he was in round 3 or 4 and again later in the round where the ref stopped the action for his shoes to be retied.

:: If you say so...

 

:laughing::laughing::atu:

MWS you got busted!

 

Wow! The Abraham war! That's exactly what this forum needed. It reminds of my best years of "foruming".

MWS and Ike : Abraham can punch like a mule kicks! Now shut up bitches! ::

 

Threads like these prove that boxing fans are the most retarded in the world.

 

Tam, you underrate stupidity... It generates activity! Exactly what this dying site needs.

 

It's true, I mean think about it. There can be nearly knocked down for example, if you stumble, and the ring holds you up etc.

But some things are more clear cut.

Like getting cut or knocked out. I mean the expression is knocked the FUCK OUT. You're either completely out, or you're not. Hatton wasn't even down, let alone completely out.

Same with cuts, you either get cut or you don't, you can't "nearly get cut" ::

Incidentally, what were Castillo and Porter's comments about Manny?

I agree with you on one thing though, at 130 and above it's certainly Manny's speed that really stands out, that's the one category that should be described as freaky. It's the fact that he's put on weight yet lost no speed that seems to defy logic and physics.

As for his power, it was enough to get Oscar's respect and buzz him once or twice, moving up 2 straight divisions from lightweight, and really being a natural featherweight.

Then he sparked Hatton with 1 punch. His punches also had more effect on Marquez than Mayweather's, who was significantly bigger than Gay Marquez.

I'd say that's some pretty impressive power.

Don't get me wrong, I know Pacman is not a natural flyweight, and he was a teenager for much of that time.

However, you only have to look at the guy to know he is a natural featherweight or thereabouts. He's not even close to being a natural welterweight.

Let's see Arabspam move up to cruiserweight and see how hard his punches seem there.

You have to bear in mind that Pacman is fighting naturally bigger men, he has been for years. He even looked smaller than Morales and Barrera (apart from maybe the second MAB fight).

Just like Freitas, Arabspam's power only looks impressive against scrubs.

OMGZ Freitas KO'd Alexandrov! Teh powa! Yet against world class opposition, Freitas' power looked nothing special at all.

Same with Arabspam, OMGZ he KO'd teh Ghevor and teh Elcock!! And teh shot, tired Taylor! OMG! Teh powah!

You'll see if he fights Kessler, his power is going to look like nothing special.

 

Just in case I was included in this pool of boxing fans, I'd like to point out that I'm extremely intelligent.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though, and assume that you mean the boxing fans like ElTerrible that think Arabspam is really good, and the hardest puncher in the sport :kidcool:

 

Who is the retard? Us or the cunt that thinks a guy who has fought a putrid level of competition has freakish power. Notice not one of them has responded to your Freitas example. Tam is right. Most boxing fans are retarded(as he is).

I am glad the two of us stand alone, two of the most intelligent posters on this site for years. We will be vindicated.

 

A man of reason. Would you like on my bandwagon.

These idiots that say AA is the next Julian Jackson must think Karl Froch is superman. Not only did he kayo JT faster and on the road, he beat Jean Pascal who is better than all of AA's competition.

I am arguing with guys that have seen 3 of his fights. One of which was a tko loss in any other place but Germany.

 

Yeah, Taylor should have retired after his first loss, after reigning as the "undisputed" middleweight champion, in a fight he should have won.

Dickhead.

 

the Hatton example is bad because Hatton was already hurt badly before he was KOed by Pacquiao.

abraham is clearly heavy handed as are the majority of pro fighters. accuracy = power. period. pacquiao is NOT a hard puncher just a fast one.

abraham is stocky and powerful, pacquiao is the size of a child so naturally one hits much harder than the other one. abraham throws dead weight, retard punches that will kill whatever they hit. is he one of the hardest hitting fighters in boxing? not by a long shot. but he still punches hard as a motherfucker.

 

Floyd is fast too and as acurate as they come, how come he's not knocking anyone out cold with one shot?

Pac has power a lot of it.