Will this strategy work against Floyd???

I figured you'd have to take this old school; straight up Georgie Benton style.

How 'bout selling out for the first five rounds bangin the shit out of Floyd's shoulders, forearms and hips. I mean beat the hell out of those extremities like the freakin heavybag.

Marciano busted vessels in forearms and won the later rounds. I think a guy as strong as Pacquiao can be pretty effective.

Floyd counters when you aim for the head, but he just covers up when he's getting hit on the arms.

 

Maybe in a 15 rounder.....Pacquiao might hurt his hands in the process of busting Mayweahter forearms, shoulders, etc.....

 

His hands were swollen and busted up after last nights fight.

 

exactly....Manny just has to be Pacquiao against Mayweather. Right hook to the body, forget about the hook to the head is not gonna land, straight left down the middle...aggression, aggression and more aggression make Mayweather move...and if Pacquiao can take Mayweather counters he can pull it off.

 

You're right. It seems like no one punches in bunches against Mayweather. It seems like he breaks their rhyhm with sharp counters. And using his shoulder, in lieu of his glove to protect his chin in and out of the pocket is something to contend with.

I'd have a fighter look for the counter and respond with 5-7 punch counters. Land 1 or 5, I doubt someone as fast as Pacquiao will miss all 5 or 7, all of the time. Make Mayweather fight and punch more and you can throw him off of his game plan. He's almost like Hopkins, he makes you slow down the pace. I had never seen Mayweather fight tired. I know he'd be a different fighter, and vulnerable.

 

floyd didn't throw that many punches vs. marquez and that might cost him vs. pacquiao.

pac can match him in speed and it's not unthinkable that pac's going to land on mayweather's chin at some point.

mayweather clearly is the stronger and naturally bigger of the two, so i'm still leaning towards floyd but not w/ great confidence.

 

I doubt it's a guarantee that Floyd is stronger. That's what the story was before Hatton, and yesterday with Cotto. Pac has made liars out of a lot of us.

Pac has the overall athleticism to match Floyd and close distances quickly, which is an underated asset for Pac. Floyd has great range when guys stare at him, but when that distance gets cut quickly, I think that's enough to break his rhythm.

 

Floyd hasn't thrown many punches for 5 years. The one exception was against Gatti. I still Favor Floyd although I don't think his chin is good. He fights in that vaginal style for a reason. Actually, I don't mean to use the word vaginal. I haven't seen a female fighter that fights in such a pussy style.

 

Floyd got stunned by both Corley and Judah. Manny has a chance. Especially at this point, cause despite what some ppl might think... Floyd is no longer in his prime. Having said all that... I still favor Floyd. He's a different animal entirely from DLH, Hatton, and Cotto.

 

People seem to gloss over the fact that slow, fat Marquez landed some pretty good shots on Mayweather during their fight.

I think Pacquiao, who handles the weight better and is still fast, will give "Money" problems.

 

This fight is never gonna happen. Floyd has convinced himself that he is bigger then boxing, and unless he gets a 60-40 or 70-30 type of money he'll continue to make excuses, and not fight Pac. I'm no longer a Mayweather fan the same way I was no longer a Roy Jones fan at the beginning of this decade, because they put money ahead of their fans. Floyd doesn't give two shits about what real boxing fans want. He only wants to get paid fighting easy guys. Pacman/Mayweather in the eyes of everyone is a fight that has to happen, but Floyd has clearly gone on record and said it won't if it's a 50-50 deal. This is the same guy who thought he was responsible for Mayweather/De La Hoya being such a big PPV draw. Fuck Floyd. If this fight was to happen, I'd root for Pac all the way

 

Mayweather is hoping somebody beats Pacquiao...that why he won't have to fight him...i guess Mayweather rather make 10 million fighting Matthew Hatton and another 8-10 million for fighting Salita or Khan...that risk it all for 25 million vs. Pacquiao.

 

I think if the fight is made, the fighters will make above $40 million EACH. PPV HD at a cost of $64.95. With a conservative estimate of 2 million buys, that's 130 million revenue.

If the fight is competitive, which most likely it will be, there is the rematch and another $40 million.

WHOEVER says NO to those kind of paydays should be technically certifiably INSANE.

It's undeniable that Manny CARRIED Cotto to the late rounds. He wanted to have more rounds against a REAL strong welter. He even went to the ropes to ABSORB shots from Cotto to GAGE his strength. Remind you of anybody? Mayweather does that.

I think Manny improved so much that he will have a truthful interpretation of what is transpiring in the fight and what he needs to adjust if anything.

The fighters that Mayweather countered in the past, stopped throwing and got discouraged. I don't think Manny will stop throwing after he is countered or takes a single right jab body shot.

 

Floyd's regular defense should suffice. He will have to work harder than usual and for a longer period of time. I think he will be up for the task.

 

I mean this with no offense to you personally, but I absolutely f'n hate this mythical "old school" approach of "hitting anything, arms, shoulders, forearms, gloves...wear him down with constant pressure."

I have seen a lot of boxing and I can name exactly zero times where this approach works. You win fights by landing shots where they hurt. And it doesn't hurt on the non-scoring areas. You don't wear out a world-class fighter by hitting him in the arms. You wear yourself out.

When a volume fighter gets the better of a classy fighter, it is generally because his output shuts down the offense of the other fighter. But this doesn't happen because the classy fighter is afraid of getting hit in the shoulder, it happens because enough punches are getting through the guard.

 

Agree.

 

Agreed. I doubt battering Floyd's shoulder for five or six rounds is going to pay dividends later on. Its Pac's speed and dynamic offence which I would hope helps him to score against Floyd.

 

:bears:

 

Sorry man, but that is reaching it. Marquez came off very good performances and he hardly landed a punch on Floyd. Argument such as if Marquez landed one punch then Pac will do it and knock him out sounds Dynamitish, so to say

 

So you're saying Marquez never touched Floyd good?

 

Marquez did indeed land some nice clean counters on Floyd, but not that many, because Floyd was running away like a girl, and Marquez aint that quick.

 

Mayweather punches back you know that right? The kind of fighter that will beat Floyd is the tall rangy type with an excellent jab and a long right hand like Vernon Forest RIP.

 

but Manny is a different animal as well.All I've heard was that Manny's never fought nobody like Floyd,well Floyds never fought anything like Manny....ever!

 

I'm curious to see how Mayweathers defense can hold up to Pacquiao's offense.Mayweathers never fought a fighter that can find openings the way Pacquiao does.

 

Have you ever boxed a day in your life?

 

Of course not, he is but a mere typist.

 

c'mon mex, running?? That's why Floyd is the best p4p, because he can box, and boxing includes using your legs to move out of harm's way. Floyd doesn't have the power to end fights early, that's why he fights that way. He's a chess-master. You can't land as much as floyd did to marquez and be considered a runner. Floyd is a defensive whiz, that's why he rarely gets hit.

 

So you agree with me?

 

I guess you haven't heard about, or seen Marciano/La Starza. And that was an 11 round fight, the re-match that is.

 

getting hit on the shoulders and arms hurts...alot.

just like kicking someones legs in a thai boxing fight, the art of infighting and punches at the wrists, arms, and shoulders is very effective.

fights are broken up too quickly nowadays, so naturally there is far less of this than there used to be.