Hatton to come back vs Marquez?

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  1. meetthefeebles

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    His defence didnt always suck: once upon a time his footspeed got him out of the way a hell of a lot.

    At this point, however, the rest of your post is right on the money. Hatton cannot take a shot anymore- certainly the guy who took all that Tyszu had and walked on is long, long gone. The lifestyle has caught up with Ricky...

    Hatton has had a very, very good career. He's lost only to the very best and has a number of very, very good wins. But he is done. It's time to call it a day and enjoy his retirement, rather than start fighting guys that he would have hammered a few years ago but would lose to now.

    The plan is obviously a fight against Khan. Hatton is at LEAST three levels above Amir at his best, but Khan beats him at this point. He doesn't need that shit.

    Call it a day, Ricky

    MTF :pray:
     
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    Marquez would fuck him up at this point.

    Theres a NUMBER of guys at 140 who would beat today's version of Hatton.
     
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  3. joony

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    i heard marquez is fighting pacquiao in march at the new cowboys stadium.

    haven't heard shit about hatton ever fighting again. the dude has to be in his high 180s based on the pics i've seen recently.
     
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    Hatton will get stopped once again....
     
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    What's a formidable welterweight force doing picking on a jr welterweight?
     
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    I think it´s more likely that the Mexican is Barrera, or even Morales. :lol:

    I heard Barrera wanted to fight the Moses for one of the ten WBA versions of the lightweight world title, maybe they offered him a bit more.
     
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  9. adamiw

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...uan-in-test-before-khan-showdown-1816929.html

    Six months after being left wide-eyed and legless by Manny Pacquiao, Ricky Hatton is getting itchy fists again. We hear the Hitman is poised to announce a New Year comeback against Juan Manuel Marquez, the 36-year-old Mexican last seen losing to another Hatton nemesis, Floyd Mayweather Jnr. Although he still declines to confirm his intentions, the word in boxing is that his desire not to go out a loser has been rekindled by the build-up to last night's Valuev-Haye scrap. He acknowledges he misses the big-fight atmosphere and insists there would be no problem getting back into shape at "Hatton House", the new £2 million fight HQ he has built near his Manchester home.

    "Sometimes when you've been doing this game for so long, you need to recharge your batteries and then you can come back with a bit more fire in your belly," he says. "There are things I know I can put right, and if I give it another go it will not be an eight-rounder after beating some of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world. It's got to be a fight that will get me excited." Marquez has already been earmarked as a trial horse for a hoped-for meeting next summer with Amir Khan which Hatton, 31, insists he must promote himself. "That would not be negotiable, otherwise it's a non-starter."
     
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    Cumulative damage is why.Ricky is a cunt if he fights tiny Marquez next. He has no business at 140. He deserves to get as little credit as Floyd FOR THIS. Marquez was getting worked over by Juan Diaz.Anyone thinking Marquez will win is dumber than shit.
     
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    That, and his body is aging. The strain of making 140 probably damages his punch resistance.
     
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    If by any chance Marquez is not available, another mexican, Antonio Margarito, is looking for an opponent on March. :crafty:
     
  13. adamiw

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    Went a bit quiet on this front, i was beginning to think it might be a dud rumour, but....

    http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1322/marquez_hatton_in_talks/

    Juan Manuel Marquez and Ricky Hatton have begun talks to fight in Manchester, England, promoter Richard Schaefer said.

    No date has been discussed.

    “That’s one of things we have to discuss,â€￾ Schaefer said. “I’m going to be talking to the Hattons. And Marquez wants to do it. We’ll see if we can get it done.â€￾

    Marquez is coming off a one-sided decision loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr. in September, for which he went up two weight classes.

    Hatton’s last fight was a one-punch, second-round knockout loss against Manny Pacquiao in May, after which the popular Briton hinted at retirement.

    Marquez and Hatton would likely meet at 140 pounds.
     
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    Tough fight to call if Hatton and marquez fight. How will Hatton respond to that brutal KO by manny? Might be a bad move i think
     
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    For fuck's sake Ricky- just pack it in, man!

    MTF :notallthere:
     
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    Lazcano has always been a big puncher. And Hatton, while he survived Tszyu's punches, did so by bull-rushing him and holding. He couldn't do that against PBF or Pacquiao.

    He did so against Lazcano for most of the fight.

    And let's not forget the Collazo fight, that happened before the PBF and Pacquiao fights. Hatton was out on his feet in that fight too.

    Point is, Hatton has never been overly durable. He's just a grappler. He's crap. He wins fights a lot like Ruiz did.

    The sad thing is, I wouldn't be surprised to see Hatton beat Marquez.
     
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    Marquez is going to smash him with ease. He won't KO him early, like Pacquiao, but he'll make it look like Hatton doesn't belong in the same ring---which he doesn't. That will setup a third clash if Marquez is impressive.

    Cupey
     
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    I wonder if the rumors are true? Hatton seems like an alcoholic if these accounts are accurate.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...hatton-s-holiday-booze-blitz-115875-20271922/

    http://www.15rounds.com/hatton-vs-pacquiao-weight-and-alcohol/

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/268717

    http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=21225

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/boxing/article1187235.ece

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article3142402.ece
     
  20. adamiw

    adamiw Undisputed Champion

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    If Hatton does come back, he needs to find himself a good trainer, who will look out for him. Floyd Sr didn't give a shit.
     
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    I always thought it odd that Hatton chose Floyd, sr. as a trainer. I don't believe that any fighter other than his son will get FS's very best. Then again, Hatton didn't exactly take his career seriously, either. If Hatton wouldn't even take FS's advice to quit drinking and watch his diet seriously, what difference does it make who trains him?
     
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    It does tell us a lot that a guy who crushed Kostya Tszyu doesn't belong in the same ring as featherweight Marquez.
     
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    Hatton's very professional once he's in fight camp, which for him usually starts about 12-14 weeks before the fight. Hatton's habits in between preperation for bouts probably have had their effects in terms of physical durability, but shouldn't effect his boxing per se. Reports of him getting beaten up in sparring, rifts between Mayweather and other members of the Hatton camp, and Mayweather Sr reapeatedly turning up late, amount to an all-round bad camp.

    He needs a camp where everyone is behind him 100%. Mayweather Sr is more about himself, than his fighters. That's why he tells us all that he is the best trainer in the world, but where is the evidence?
     
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    crushed? How about humped. The holding in that fight was beyond belief. Hatton absolutely should have been disqualified in that fight. Hatton cheated and the referee was in on it. Just watch the video and see how Hatton tells the referee what to do in there. A complete disgrace.

    Cupey
     
  25. Ropadope

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    Showing up for camp almost 50lbs overweight puts him way behind the eightball from the very beginning. From what I saw, Mayweather and Pac didn't show up in awful shape to begin their recent camps. Cotto didn't look bad coming in, either. To be honest, Mayweather, sr. looked in better shape than Hatton was coming into camp. While Hatton is doing his Jenny Craig thing, the competition is concentrating on fighting. Why should he expect to compete at an elite level?

    Didn't Roach offer to train Hatton after the Floyd fight? I remember Roach saying after the Floyd fight that he saw weaknesses in Hatton's style that he could repair, and make him elite. I guess Roach felt slighted by Hatton's choice of a trainer, since he called Hatton "not that good" after the Pac fight. I'm assuming that the flaws that Roach saw earlier were still present for the fight with Pacquiao.
     
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    JMM looked like utter trash in his last fight and now he's going to have an easy time with Hatton?

    I like this fight a lot. Hope it gets made.
     
  27. *Z*

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    You never know REED. Juan Diaz did some damage to JMM using aggression, Hatton no doubt is stronger and hits harder than baby fat. JMM is defiitely the better boxer though.
     
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    JMM looked better against Floyd than Hatton and lets not even bring up who did better against Pacman :lol:
     
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    Hatton has come into camps overweight all his career, and actually, he probably didn't blow up so much inbetween the Mallinaggi and Pacquaio fights. But that's beside the point. Mayweather's job is to do the best for his fighter during that 10 week period, and he didn't.

    Roach did offer, and i think Ricky should take it. But if his plans clash with Manny's in anyway, he's not going to get Roach's full attention.
     
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    JMM didn't win a round. He got shut out. Hatton made it way tougher on Floyd. The only thing JMM did better at was making it through the fight. :lol:
     

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