You watch American scribes absolutely go ape-shit because Vitali went 12 rounds, ,.. this is really unprecedented in boxing,.. someone like Fraud can earn a stinking, fucking split decision, or someone like Hopkins can go almost an entire decade without a KO and be elivated to 'greatness',.. but the double standards on Vitali has to indeed suggest that there's a little 'somethin' somethin' between the lines,.. check out the 'sweetscience' .com,.. they'll have a doozey primed up and ready,.. Here's a guaranteed line in the article,.. 'Now Im not racist or xenophobic like my compatriots, I've learned to accept that Vitali is the champ, for now, in the weakest division in the history of boxing, but....' :crafty:
That is about the size of it. Johnson did his utmost to spoil, and still ended the fight winded and puffing and was getting ready to get KO'd. He did more bending at the waist than a $2 hooker in a room with really low ceilings. Get this: 1995 George Foreman would have lost to Johnson. And the Foreman that lost to Jimmy Young would have too.
Dun matta, dun matta, Johnson landed the cleaner, harder, and more effective blows. But I honestly expected alot better than this from him,.. I thought he could pump that double jab consistantly but,.. in keeping track of the 'king-pin' diaries on fightnews,.. it turns out this guy is impressively full of shit,.. impressively,.. he's got the intense compartmentalization skills to fatten a paper-back or two.
Johnson fights like a bitch. VItali did what he had to do but it was pretty hard to find that bitch, even though he did start catching him at the end. I think he should change his name to "Queenpin"
There's nothing quite like a shit-talker who makes all these "Im gunna kill him!" promises and then gets in the ring and fights like a bitch. However, it works for Haye, so,.. Kingpin's only following the heavyweight saviour's example.
wow, the Klitshko fan boy sure are in red alert mode following Vitaly UD over (yet another ) unproven club fighter
I don't think I wrote this here, but I remember telling Jaws that VK is at his end. There is just a little decline in him. Going 10 rounds with Arreola was a giant red flag. Vitali is all but done.Your point is ridiculous though. VK has one of the , if not they highest kayo percentage of any Heayweight champ. Lennox Lewis went 12 with far worse like the Mowhawk bum.
The Kiltshko match making is so obvious it's sickening. Wlad fights every crafty boxer who can't punch ( cause his chin is glass ) while Vitaly fights the big lumbering guy ( because he's troubled by angles and movement ). Fortunuately for them, their respective weakness suit the other one strenght very well ( I mean by that that Wlad eats up the Chagaev, Ibragimo, Byrd and Chambers of the world, all guys who would trouble, stylistically, Vitaly ).
what point ??? I don't critisize Vitaly for not kayoing Johnson, I critisize him for fighting bums or fighters he matches very well with, in dreadfull fights, just like his brother is doing.
Arreola would've faired better against Wlad,.. but I think Johnson, would have faired brutally worse.
Vitali looked good against a guy who came there with the express intention of going 12 rounds without offering any offense whatsoever. He avoided his way to a 12 round loss. Johnson was looking very bad in the last round, another couple of minutes and he would have been KO'd. Vitali looked much slower than from what I remember of him years ago, still looks fit and strong just even slower. Haye could possibly take him out by out-speeding him, although Haye would get hit in that fight and his chin may let him down, hopefully we shall find out.
There is nobody, who would trouble Vitali stylistically except his brother. You are braindead. Ibragimov was scared to death by Holyfield and Wladimir. Vitali could drop him with his stare alone. :: Troubled by angles and movement? Vitali has never trailed on a scorecard. Juan Carlos Gomez, Chris Byrd, Larry Donald and Kevin Johnson won like a combined four rounds and if Johnson actually made an effort to win the fight, he would have been KTFO. Yes huge struggles there. ::
How did Byrd Trouble Vitali? Vitali hardly lost any rounds in his career. Lewis was his hardest fight and that was on What Two weeks notice?
In the beginning of the year, when Vitaly fought Gomez, I thought to myself:"Wow, Vitaly really wants to approach the same level of competition Ruiz fought 10 years ago" (although, of course, Holyfield shits all over Gomez both as a cruiserweight and as a heavyweight), but then Vitaly decided to sink even lower in his choice of competition by fighting.....Arreola and Johnson (where he digs up these bums is anothe question). Ruiz fought way better level of opposition 10 freaking years ago. Is Vitaly ever going to step up, or is he satisified with his single (as in "1") win over heavyweight world champion? For comparsion, Ruiz has three times as many victories over heavyweight world champions as Vitaly.
John Ruiz. Three times as many victories over heavyweight world champions as Vitaly. Resume, that shits all over Vitaly's. Repeatedly challenged Vitaly to the fight, as far back as 2004....you know what Vitaly did after Ruiz challenged him? He tried to fight (unsuccesfully) Ruiz's leftover. In general, Vitaly made a career on fighting (often unsuccesfully) Ruiz's leftovers.
WTF seriously? Kevin Johnson was a crappy challenger and everybody knew that but your theory about Vitali's choise of opponents is rather silly since Johnson was a boxer-type who couldn't punch, as was JC Gomez whom he beat this year. By just looking at Vitali you could think that boxer-types would trouble him, but if you actually look at his record you can see that he has fought a bunch of boxer types and dominated them all. With Wlad you could have a case if only there was even one fighter whom Wlad had been ducking (apart from dymipepel's mind)
I'll say it again - quitting in the ring by not trying to win is BY FAR the worst kind of quitting. Half Johnson's purse should go to refunding the people who paid for tickets.
It is not fully Johnsons fault. If Johnson is obliged to repay people, then so to should ESPN, Max Kellerman, HBO, Steve Kim, Paedo Fernandez, Cripple Katz, Ring Magazine, LouDiGumbah and countless others. These morons have been telling people like Johnson, for years, that guys like the Klitschkos are there to be taken. Get inside their heads. Wag your little finger, shake your head, walk like an Egyptian and they will fold. No stamina, no balls, quitters. So Johnson listens to this crap which is trotted out with an enthusiasm and a repetition that would make the authorities in Iran proud, and he believes it. He goes off to Switzerland, does the Mayweather routine, shakes the head, flicks the jab, runs, spoils..... Does he win? Nope. Instead he cannot figure out why this big bum, whom they have been telling him for years is there to be took, keeps coming after him. By the end of the 12th, it is Klitschko who is doing the goofing and Johnson can barely breath. However,such is the effect of the propaganda, he finds his second wind after the final bell and gets stuck into Wladimir, whom he is told is also there to be taken. Eventually, our Kev sees the light and plods back to his corner.
Seriously speaking, lots of great fighters have done this. Barney Ross vs Homicide Hank. Ali vs Holmes. MAB vs Pac RJJ vs Tarver part III Its not the worst thing a fighter can do. The worst thing a fighter can do is quit and try to win....Hopkins vs Calzaghe, Santana vs Norris, that African dude who quit on the ropes there recently and tried to get a DQ. Camacho Jr vs Leija, maybe, just maybe, even Arthur Abraham vs Miranda I , though that was an extreme circumstance and Miranda was also fouling like a whore.
:: That's exactly what I was thinking when the fight was over. What a colossal waste of time for everyone involved. R.I.P. Heavyweight Division.
Tam-Tam was not involved. He didnt even show up in the thread until after the fight ended. Which means he was glued to his screen, lapping it up, praying for a KJ hail mary all the while enjoying the sheer buff manliness of VK.