Vitali versus a sparring partner

What do you mean by the end? It was another useless fight but I don't see how it spells end to the division. A week ago Bernard Hopkins, a ring legend and the #1 light-heavy in the world also wasted everybody's time by outpointing some scrub. It is a part of boxing and has always been. We have seen pointless fights during every long-reigning champions time

 

Ron Borges is probably king of the shit heap,.. and your post seems correct except,..I doubt the fighters are coming in with a programmed psyche created by those heartbroken, bitter, parochial scribes,.. I think fighters know pretty clearly, that those morons are behind a safety blanket, choking like chained maulers and indulging in a fantasy to make themselves feel better.

 

Ali W Jimmy Young

HW Division RIP

Lennox Lewis WDQ Akinwande
HW Division RIP

etc.

 

The point is though that by the 4th round it was screamingly obvious said approach wasn't working. If he was gonna have a chance he was gonna have to TAKE a chance - and if he wasn't willing to to do that he had no business getting paid hundreds of thousands for a shot at the heavyweight championship. A real fighter would have rolled the dice, even if it meant a probable KO loss.

The examples of great fighters like Barrera and Ali saving face in late carer fights after going to the well and proving their desire dozens of times in the past is a disanalogy. This was Johnson's one big shot and he didn't even want it enough to TRY.

 

I know Borges has no time for Roy Jones Jr, and that the feeling is mutual, in that regard, I side with Jones, as Borges is living off a 1-off preDicktion {as Reed would say} he made like 13 years ago.

 

He seemed like he was going to get KO'd anyways, by the end of the 12th he was puffing badly. Again, I think there is something engrained in the heads of people like Johnson that the Klitschkos are always good for a collapse. Stay there long enough, goof them, and you will win. Hokum.

What I love about Klitschko is that he is like a dog chasing a ball....the f*cking thing could roll out into the middle of the Brooklyn Bridge and he will keep chasing it, come what may. Vitalis attitude is, fine, adopt your "stinky" stance and I will keep at you until, by sheer force of my effort, you collapse from exhaustion.

I thought it was intriguing, seeing a 38 year old man set the faster pace, bend his knees, lean back from Johnsons jab and try to get his own shots off. He went to the body with refreshing regularity and it worked a treat.

If Hatton had half the brain of Vitali, he might still be a good fighter.

 

Vitali is beyond reproach, imo. Last night was an awful fight and it was 100% Johnson's fault. He honsetly should be fined. I wish HBO would take public stands on guys who lay turds on valuable tv time space. They need to ban these guys for life on HBO for a single instance like what Johnson did and do it publically, even keeping a public list so promoters drop them too.

I really don't understand efforts like Johnson. I don't like getting punched in the face by 6 foot 8 Ukranians so I don't sign contracts stating I will. Johnson fought like he didn't want to get kayo'd. Why fight if you have 0% of winning. It is the same to me as a guy who wants to be a womanizer but does not like women's bullshit or a surfer who hates the ocean.

 

Johnson wants to be famous as only the second guy in history to go the distance with Vitali, that was clearly his goal and very sad claim to boxing greatness, he is a retard.

 

Haye, Ruiz, Valuev, and apart form Haye, these guy's have been in the top 3i-5 for a very very long time

 

the only good boxe types Vitaly fought were Byrd and Donal, both B-class imo, and both had far more sucess than his typical opponent

 

I'm pretty fuckin embarassed to say that KJ is from Asbury Park where I live. In the barber shop yesterday everybody was hyping dude up, and I kept telling them he had no chance. I never wanted to claim him cuz I knew the guy blows.

 

Byrd not only won the fight but he made VItaly looked very very bad. More than a few reporters discarded him as worhtless after the fight, and not only becaue he quit, but because he looked so bad.

 

Byrd and Donald won two rounds combined. Sure, byrd got the W, but surely you don't try to bring that result up as a proof for boxer types troubling Vitali? Vitali outboxed Byrd in a way nobody apart from Wlad has done, and Vitali has clearly become better, more controlled fighter after that.

Also Kirk Johnson was a boxer type and as good as Donald. Has there been any other quick boxer whom Vitali should have fought in your opinion?

 

Sure, it would be cool if a champion could fight everybody and then some, but considering Chagaev beat Ruiz and Valuev, fighting him instead of those two isn't exactly a bitch move IMHO

 

Vitali handles speed just fine. Sanders and Kirk Johnson brought plenty of it and Vitali did just fine- albeit he had a shaky first round vs Sanders, something I put down to nerves and trepidation on his behalf.

 

Lies, lies and more lies.
Byrd out-threw and out-landed Vitaly convincingly in that fight.
The German judges might have had Vitaly up when Byrd KOed him, but Byrd knew he wasn't going to win on points anyway, and that's why he gunned for the KO (and Byrd's strategy worked beatifully).
Simply put: Vitaly today tries (unsuccesfully) match Ruiz's level of competition from 10 years ago.
Sad, ain't it?

 

Who is Johnson? The guy who got outboxed by Ruiz decades before Vitaly fought him?
Who's Sanders? The guy who got brutalized by Rahman decades before Vitaly fought him?

 

Klitschko KO 2 Johnson

Ruiz WDQ10 Johnson

I think the gulf is apparent.

Is Ruiz claiming welfare yet?

 

Ruiz W12 Rahman.
Vitaly: attempted to fight Rahman 4 times in a row, but was unable to overcome his fear, and get in the same ring with The Rock.

I think the gulf is apparent.

Is Vitaly a mayor of Kiev yet, or him getting 3% of the vote wasn't enough?

Ruiz W12 McCline.
Vitaly: attempted to fight McCline 6 times in a row, but was unable to overcome his fear, and get in the same ring with McCline.
I think the gulf is apparent.

Is Vitaly a mayor of Kiev yet, or him getting 3% of the vote wasn't enough?

 

The bottom line is this: Vitaly should either quit boxing (again) or step up the level of competition. There should be no ifs, ors, ands, or buts.....
Fight Ruiz, or shut up and go lose another election.

 

Ha ha ha......Ruiz gets the ho', he gets it right in the ass from the 'ho.

 

Will you get Ruizs nuts out of your mouth please? The guy is definately one of the worst heavyweight champs ever. He will always be known as having 2 of the most embarrasing losses the HW division has ever seen and some of the most unimpressive wins as well.

Give it a break, the act is getting old.:shit:

 

Ruiz is the biggest joke of a heavyweight the world has ever seen, after Tua knocked his ass out he turned himself into a wrestler, all he does is grapple.

 

"when the pimp....gets beat up by his 'ho.....then....Stoney Stone will turn purple, and get pimped by Coach Merk"...John Ruiz.:atu:

 

How come the level of opponents he defeated are so much higher than that of Vitaly, the?
And what does it tell us about Vitaly?

There's no shame in losing to Roy Jones, one of the all-time greats, and lasting the distance in the process.
Now, being stopped by Chris Byrd, while ouweighing him by 50 pounds, and being 2 feet taller......that's Vitaly's achievement? ::

What is better, then? To have unimpressive wins over top quality competition or to have impressive wins over bums?

 

Tua is one of the heaviest punchers of all-time.
Byrd is one of the lightest punchers of all time.

Is it better to be stopped by one of the heaviest punchers of all-time or by one of the lightest punchers of all time?

 

God invented Ruiz so that Jones and Toney could test the limits of steroid use.

 

Ah, yes, steroid abuse, something that Vitaly was caught for, forced to apologize and thrown out of boxing team...
I still remember that video of Ukranian Olympic Committee, where the lying and stuttering coward was forced to admit steroid abuse and thrown out of the team.
The look on his face was priceless.

 

Nope...it was a "prohibited substance" which turned out to be an inoffensive diuretic. He felt the need to piss on Ruiz and so popped some pills.

Nice try though.

If Stoney Stone had not ingested so much Viagra, he could have avoided that heart attack. I guess his dick just had to be hard for John. Lets face it, nobody elses was.



How much of a beating did Ruiz take off his wife? Enough to end up having to go to Germany for a double-dose off Big Nick.

 

You're apparently not keeping up with the actions of the coward you adore so much.The coward himself admitted that he was a cheater, and that he took steroids to help his "knee injury".
I believe that's the same "injury" that forced him to quit against Maskaev, to quit against Byrd, to quit against Rahman, to quit against McCline and to quit against Ruiz.