What will happen with Pac checks Mayweather's chin?

I can see this happening when he makes a breakthrough against Floyd. It will probably come after a few rounds of frustration and I can see the excitment of seeing Floyd buzzed or ruffled having that effect. Its just how I see it, Im hardly nostradamus in the prediction stakes, its just a mental image I have. They're usually half baked and wrong, but since I don't gamble I just stick to them anyway. :)

 

Thing about Floyd is, as Reed points out, he wont go looking for Pac...to begin with.

Suppose Pac wins the first 4 rounds off activity and the crowd makes a shit load of noise everytime Pac lands.
Will Floyd still lie against the ropes? Or Will Floyd start trying to win some rounds of his own?
Eventually, Floyd is going to have to come out to play.

 

Mayweather by decision. He'll talk big, but he'll fight conservative as always, moving away from Pacquiao's big left hand, and keeping the jab in his face, clinching, and the occasional straight right hand counters and lead left hooks.

Obviously I hope I'm wrong and we get a reincarnation of Leonard Duran I but I don't know if Manny can force Mayweather into that type of fight.

No KO.... Mayweather will be too worried about his 0 to engage Pacquiao too much.

Mayweather via UD.

 

This is the number 1 X factor in this fight to my mind. IF Pac can do that, what does the fight look like when Floyd has to step it up to keep up.

As I've said, my gut says if and when this happens Floyd pulls something out, but it'll be a thrill whatever the outcome to have somebody force Floyd to FIGHT, if he CAN.

 

Fraud is a rangey monster,.. he's got the wingspan of a pteradactyl, he'll pot, and sprint,.. Pacquiao's real challenge will be that illegal shoulder roll shit,.. Roach has got to come up with some sort of game plan about striking the back of that head, because although Pacquiao can unload on a conventional guard in combinations and get through with his punches well,.. you can't do that with a coffee bench,..there's no head, nor body to punch anymore..it's all folded down illegally, this is the fucked up reason why Pacquiao will be cheated out of winning, and the thing is, Roach is usually good at bringing out the rule book when it suits him before big fights,..but this time he's gagged, because he embraced this illegal mechanism with James Toney,.. whoops,..

 

Mayweather will make Pac look like the same Pac from the first Morales fight

 

Why is the shoulder roll illegal? I don't see it. Boxing is limiting the available space for someone to land a legal punch on you and that is what Floyd does. Is it illegal for Winky to use those long arms or Foremand and his crab defense?

I think what you may be thinking of is the way Floyd uses his elbows inside to create space.

 

The rules of boxing state, that you cannot turn your back on your opponent, nor can you bend your head below your opponents belt level,.. that's precisely his 'shoulder roll' apparatus in two parts.

 

What Kauki said.

In every fight he has Floyd turns his back on his opponent, and bends below waist level, it's all part of the "shoulder roll" defense.

So yes, albeit effective, the shoulder roll is technically illegal.

 

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He does not turn his back. That is BS!

See how he uses it here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB_-T1_uAJM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK9en6g9JTQ

 

Um, I've seen almost every one of Floyd's fights, I don't need to see a youtube clip to know what the shoulder roll is ::

Sometimes yes, he turns his back as he contorts away from an attack.

 

Pac broke down DLH to the body

 

Pac broke DLH.

 

He ducks sometimes under punches after a shoulder roll and it looks kind of like that, but he does not do anything illegal.

 

The shoulder roll is fine. A lot of fighters do it.
PBF's version of it however, being extremely generous is illegal at least 50% of the time. Also his use of the elbow is illegal.

 

Wow, Floyd has really lost a step or more in speed and mobility.

 

If your talking about the JMM fight, he knew he could not be hurt and did not move as much. Hopefully that is the reason for that, if it really is because he lost a step my $100 bet on Mayweather winning will go down the tubes like my $120 bet that Diaz would win last week.

My other bet is that Mosely beats Berto. All sketchy bets that's for sure.

 

We got us a venue, a date, and the fighters.....but most importantly of all, do we have us a referee who will prevent Floyd from using throat bars and elbows?

 

Wasn't even deliberate, that! Like one of those Derren Brown subliminal influence techniques.

 

Agreed. We've got to get some decent refs in this silly sport to counter the amount of holding and below waist ducking going on, it's basically eliminating in-fighting from the sport (the best bit, dammit!).

 

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Didnt spot that myself until now

 

Agreed. It's specifically Floyd's version of it that is illegal, probably around 50% of the time as you say.

Why doesn't he get called out on it? Refs are quick to call on low blows, rabbit punches, hitting with the back of the glove, too much holding etc. What floyd does a lot of the time is against the rules, I have no idea why no ref ever has called him out on it.

 

Streetfighter - no. Me and V10 have been saying this for a while. Not just JMM, watch the Oscar and Hatton fights before his layoff.

Floyd is significantly slower than he used to be.

He's still sharp, and probably more crafty, but certainly not as quick.

 

Hopefully Pacman can counter Floyd's dirty fighting and elbowing, and not get flustered etc.

He obliterated hatton before we really got to see how he deals with roughhouse tactics.

 

He coped about as well as you can expect someone to cope with Agapito Sanchez's dirty tactics.

Thing is, PBF is always going to be uniquely equipped to defend well against shorter opponents because of his shoulder. The proof is that he uses the defense far less when he faces guys taller than him.

 

Yeah I agree about Sanchez, but also that fight was almost a decade ago.

One can only assume that years more ring smarts and experience are going to help Pacman deal with those kind of tactics better now.

 

LOL at you fellas comparing Agapito's dirty tactics with Floyd's. ::

 

Yep. He's gotten much stronger and craftier but the wicked speed isn't there anymore.

 

the punch he dropped Marquez with was pretty dayum fast. But he's never been "that" fast. He's fast with one shot at a time. But he's not a blazing combo puncher.