Pac refusing drug tests...fight in jeopardy

Could you imagine that, both have been absolutely astonishing in their respective sports, reaching seemingly impossible goals, and if it turned out they were cheating to do so, to be honest it would be devastating. I know people can say boxing is corrupt which it undoubtedly is, but that's more to do with the people who run it, I always put my faith in elite athletes that they are achieving things fairly, and of course people can say "everyone is doing it", but it doesn't make it any less bitter to take.

 

I really hope this isn't true.

 

I'm sure Floyd Sr. is behind this. He questioned Pac's 'clean state' as soon as he beat Cotto.

 

Yep, indeed, and obviously that's why I asked about Bolt too :)

I would say though, if EVERYONE was doing it, it would leave a bit less bitter taste in my mouth.

For example, if Pacman is roiding, and Oscar, Hatton and Cotto were also roiding, then at least you could say they were on a level playing field.

 

SAD, but Definitely NOT Surprising...

Like REED Said the Other Day, when a Guy Does Something UNPRECEDENTED to the Degree that Pac has, U Have to @ Least WONDER if he's CLEAN...2 Years Ago, Manny Pac was a DECLINING Fighter who had CLEARLY LOST his HUNGER (Even Brother MWS, Perhaps Pac's BIGGEST Fan on this Site, Other than Alabama Bitch, Pointed this Out @ the Time)...But Now he's Reguarly SLAUGHTERING Much LARGER Men...

REED WANTS Pac to B CLEAN as Much as the Next Guy Does, but if Pac DIDN'T Have Something to HIDE, he'd have NOfuckingPROBLEM w/Pre-Fight Testing...& If this Results in the Fight Being NIXED Altogether, then it's OBVIOUS Pac WAS Using Roid @ the Higher Weights (& it will B 100% Pac's Fault)...

HOW High will B THE ONLY Thing Up for Debate



REED:hammert:

 

personally i don't have much interest in this fight anyway, so it wouldn't bug me much if this was true

 

There is an easy way out of this- they both take the test and they both pass it.

Make it happen, Schaefer/Oscar/HBO

 

Yeah that's a fair point.

I, and probably you too and however many others, thought Pac simply had a new lease of life, rejuvenated hunger. Maybe he discovered steroids, or just a brand new, better steroid? ::

This does look incredibly suspect, but innocent until proven guilty to some extent. Let's wait and see if Pac agrees to these demands, and win or lose, if he looks the same against Floyd with this strict drug testing.

 

He is replacing urine prior to testing and pissing out someone else's urine. He may be able to do that with notice, but not randomly. That is my guess as to why he does not want to be randomly tested. :( Fuk, I have 100 bucks bet on Mayweather I wonder how long till bodg gives my money back. They take forever if a fight does not come off.

 

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ouch

if Pac doesn't take this drug test, there goes his entire legacy

 

Why not???:warning: If I have a piss test, and you have a piss test...and my piss test goes acccroooooo-ooooo-oooooo-ssss the room.....I DRINK YOUR PISS TEST!! I DRINK IT UP!!! Did you think your pre-fight piss test dance would fol me? Floyd is a false prophet, and Manny is a superstition. Abraham is the smart one. He's the prophet- he has his own Super6 tournament, profitable little scam, 3 bums a year:nono:

 

Nah it's just funny, the idea that there would be this big song and dance, then the whole thing would be rigged for them to both pass anyway ::

 

Dude...you have to fail the motherfucker first.:notallthere: Only in the heads of people called Floyd, Floyd, Roger Jeff and Floyd does your kind of logic apply::

Why doesn't Floyd take it?

 

Thats what I want to see. They both take it, they both pass it, I mean, its like JFK....you and I are like DA Garrisson....HBO are the CIA, they just roll us over.

They say it all came back good.

The sticking point is Floyd. He may have to be shot.

 

And what is with all of these black folk using this word "egregious"??? It is not an "egregious" act for Manny to decline the blood test as he is not legally obliged to be so tested........therefore it is not "wrong" of him. It is not "egregious" of him to prevent this fight from taking place. If he takes the test and fails, now that would be some egregious shit.

 

No, if he does not take it he is admitting he is cheating. He may be blood doping and that is why he does not want the blood test.

It's sad really. Plus, if he is taking certain drugs and masking them they won't be masked when he is randomly tested.

 

REED Still WANTS to Believe that Pac is Clean, Mex...Quite Simply, Manny Pac has CARRIED Boxing for the Last 2 Years...& the Thing is, Floyd Mayweather ISN'T Gonna KO him, Roids or NO Roids...So The BEST Thing Pac Could Do (Even if he WAS Juicing All Along) is AGREE to the Testing...@ WORST, he Loses a Wide Decision, but the Dela, Hatton & Cotto Wins R STILL INTACT on his Legacy...

But by REFUSING the Testing, Pac is Placing ALL of his Wins Under the Microscope....



REED:hammert:

 

Pac can fight Shane. Theres no way he will be asking for olympic style testing.

 

He may have things in his system that will last too long. May be why he wanted to fight in Oct now that I think about it.

 

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Yeah me too.

I mean as a huge Pacquiao fan this is obviously very disappointing, but even objectively - like you said he really has carried the sport in the last couple of years, and generated a lot of excitement. It would be really bad for boxing, and leave a bitter taste in a lot of mouths.

And I agree. If he concedes to the demands, as long as he gives a decent account of himself and doesn't look slow and shit :: then his legacy would be in tact, and the sport wouldn't be tarnished either. It's not like anyone would be shocked if Floyd won.

If he is roiding, I find it weird that he and his team would do something so obviously suspicious as say "No, no drug test!" ::::

You'd think they'd just agree to it, then think of some way to scam it, or something, I don't know, not just flat out refuse.

What do you all think is going to happen? You think Pacman agrees? You think he continues to refuse? And if so, would the fight still happen?

 

I think that both athletes are clean until proven guilty. I think that this is just a way to really start the pre-hype of this fight. This fight is gonna take place and Manny and PBF will take the pre and post fight blood test and both will pass. I can't wait for this mega fight to take place. I'll Holla 5000

 

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I disagree about his wins over Oscar, Hatton, and Cotto.

If he is proven to be roiding even if you can't prove it for those fights everything he's done will come into question.

Hell those wins are the main reason some people question weather he roids or not. Those are the wins that put him on another level of stardom and legacy.

Manny better be clean or most of his big wins will come into question. Weather that's fair or not.

 

You don't understand, REED is saying if Pacquiao AGREES and passes, then win or lose, those 3 wins are in tact.

Obviously in those circumstances, he wouldn't be "proven to be roiding".

 

i personally believe mayweather is one of the 5% or less of the elite professional athletes NOT taking PEDs.

his whole family tree is littered with physical specimens that are pretty ignorant when it comes to actual knowledge of steroids. almost no doubt marquez, hatton, etc. etc. fought mayweather on drugs.

everyone on the inside knows most fighters are juicing, its only when they are not confident about victory when they come out with bs like this to make the opponent look bad.

lebron, kobe, dwade, EVERY nfl star are given ample time to prepare for and pass drug tests. professional bodybuilding has more rigid testing than pro sports and all the guys pass and are admitted users.

nfl averages went in 30 years from 6'1 210 with a 4.7 40 to 6'2 260 with a 4.6 40...and it all started when the 71-72 chargers were unbeatable because they implemented the use of steroids. its been prevalent in all major sports since.

why change the rules now? its not manny backing down, its floyd by trying to change the rules.

 

I dont want to say it.....but I told you so.

147 is trashed.

 

:shit::shit::shit::shit:

DON'T Start, Motherfucker...



REED:boohoo:

 

I agree with you on this. I'm not sure if there's any athlete out there whom I'd really be surprised if they were taking illegal PEDs.

With Pacquiao, if he's clean, his POV is like "why the fuck do I need to do this extra shit for YOU, no other opponent requires this. Who are you to make me change my regular routine? What's with the accusations?".

But if his ego/greed can agree to give up 10% of the purse and go to 50-50 rather than the original 60-40 demand, surely his ego should allow him to take a drug test on Team Mayweather's demands if he's not on something.